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Elymais Drachm Of King Orodes V

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Another recent pick-up of mine. Now that I have van't Haaff's book, there is really no reason not to bid on these occasionally.

It is from King Orodes V and dates to between the late 2nd Century and early 3rd Century AD. As I am learning more (but perhaps @bobL can confirm), I think that the mushroom cloud-shaped pompom (of hair?) visible on the bust on the obv is diagnostic for Orodes V. At first, I was convinced that the lines to the right of the bust on the rev were letters, but am now thinking that they instead represent strands of hair. It is attributed as vH type 18.1 1-2A.b.



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Dave, that is really an exceptional example of the type. Only very rarely are they available in such a nice state. Great pickup.

Yes, it's a hair bun above that remarkably flat cranium. But I'm pretty sure the lines to the right are neither letters nor strands of hair, but rather diadem ends trailing below the diadem tie//knot.
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Here's a bit more complete picture of the back of the diadem, on mine:

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Ah ok thanks--I really liked the remaining detail on this little guy.

For the "extra lines to the right of the bust, I think that you may be talking about on the obv though. (Right?) I'm talking about the lines on the rev (where your coin has the anchor). What are those?
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Lovely coin Spence! And nice photography...

I assume the reverse was his queen ?..Nice nose!

Great pick up.

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Thanks Paul! I actually just bought a new USB camera and this is the very first coin that I have photographed with it. Of course, taking pics of beautiful objects is easy...

According to van't Haaff, the bust on the rev is Artemis.
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Sorry, Dave. I misunderstood which bust - the king's or Artemis' - you were referring to.

I think you may have an interesting variant. While I think the lower lines to the right of Artemis are either strands of hair or ties, I would interpret the mark at 3:00 to be an upward turned crescent in place of the anchor. I think it is too far from the back of her head to represent hair. Interesting!

There are so many quirky things that show up with Elymaeans, which is of course part of their appeal. I recently corresponded with van't Haaff about a VERY unusual coin that appeared at Forum. Not sure if the pic will display for non-members, but here goes:
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/ga...?pos=-143343
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/bo...sg695703#new
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Dave excellent coin, I like the way his head looks like it exploded into a mushroom cloud.
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That was my thinking too. Mushroom clouds predicted.
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Thanks Ron and @moxking--the portrait was one of the things that drew me to this coin.

Ok awesome Bob thanks for the clarification. I agree that it does look like an upward-facing crescent. Just spit-balling here--maybe this coin was one of the later issues of Orodes V and therefore represents a bit of a transition in design to Prince A (who, as you know, sometimes had a similar symbol on his coins)?

Edit: Yes those links do work--thanks for including them!
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