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1992 D LMC Error Or PMD?

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Bet it's underweight, a thinned planchet is what it's called. Not enough metal to force into the dies cavities to make the impression. See the weakness on the front too? Neat error!

Now, if the weight is near 2.4g, then it could also be a weak pressure strike, but a mint error nonetheless!

Wait, wait! my mistake, it also could be a broken die. Lots of things. GET THE WEIGHT!

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Broken die face. That is a definite keeper Since the weight is correct, there was a gap on the die where the metal just "oozed" into and the resultant impression is that remaining broken surface. Imagine the impression if a quarter fell off about 1/8" deep.
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Wouldn't it of been something if that had been a CAM too!
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Same rules as a Cud but not?
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Yep, the weakness seen on IGWT is the mimic point of Blakesley effect. This is a "new Cud" so to speak, it hasn't been pounded smooth yet. It does make sense when you look at the right Memorial corner, a prime spot for a crack. Take a look on what's left to see any spider cracks, if not, this would most likely be called a die failure, massive right away, not bit by bit. This was a bad alloy problem of the die I suspect. That broken piece being ejected with previous coins.
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ould you send this to Ken Potter?
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I've had a few tell me this was PMD.... I just don't see how someone could do this
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IWow! Very interesting! You should be featured in a Coin World article for finding this. I'll PM Mike Diamond to see what he thinks.
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I will send a note to Coop to have a look, but he won't get back to it til later (Sunday) Believe me, It's an error, I wouldn't do Ken Potter, Maybe Mike Diamond. Me, it's 1:15 and me beat. Later.
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I wouldn't think article worthy would like to hear other opinions too.
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Newbie38, I did send an email to Mike Diamond about this coin you have and sent him the link to your thread. We'll see what he has to say about it.
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Thank you I hope I'm wrong lol
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You're welcome. Stay tuned for more replys later in the morning. Also, one more thing is I hope everyone enjoys the Superbowl against the Patriots and the Eagles (If you watch football).
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This is new to me!

I don't see how it is PMD since the affected area seems to be raised on the coin and there is no break of the copper plating.

Being raised means there must have been an absence in the die. I really don't see any abnormal weakness on the obverse strike.

Maybe it is as Crazyb0 suggested, struck with a newly broken die due to an alloy issue.

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