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Looking for the rarity on two CWT's
F-765N-4a Pekin Tea Store MS-64
F-765P-23a John W Pittock MS-64
Also looking for some sort of value on these. I don't normally deal with CWT's, but got a good price on these.
Thanks in advance.
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Can you post pics of them? To give the most accurate value, we have to see what condition they are in.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Both are NGC Graded MS-64 BN, will try to get some pics tomorrow.
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EDIT - I have those store cards in my Whitman CWT book. Not full store cards, mostly Patriotic Tokens. They are listed as PA-765-N and PA-765-P respectively.
But its showing PA-765-N-3a
and PA-765-P-13b.
That's all I saw in my search.
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Fuld rates the F-765N-4a Pekin Tea Store as an R-5. The other piece doesn't exist. The numbers don't approach a variety of 23a. It's an erroneous attribution, I'd say. Regardless, as there are numerous varieties available for both merchants, something that depresses the value, I'd venture their market value to be in the $100-$125 range. BTW ....  Edited by ExoGuy
02/08/2018 12:45 pm
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May we see the NGC label for the Pittock token, 23a, please?
Both of these merchants are relatively common, given the number of varieties. Thus, there are plenty of examples for collectors who seek to assemble a set of merchants from Pittsburgh. There are very few collectors who will endeavor to assemble all varieties for any given merchant; this, being especially true for a merchant who issued so many varieties.
Another factor affecting value of CWT's is the die variety. Both of these tokens have relatively common Indian head dies, so they are not particularly desirable to a collector seeking uncommonly seen or rare dies.
Full red specimens always command a strong premium, even for relatively common tokens. Rest assured that there are likely some, if only a few, full red specimens out there for both of these merchants. Also, consider that many collectors of CWT's, myself included, have been reluctant to encase their pieces in slabs.
Summarily, there are many factors that contribute to the market value of CWT's. The R-value is but one of many considerations.
P.S. - Note that these are tokens, not coins, as described.
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Thanks for posting the label. The numbering for this merchant may have changed in later storecard listings. In my older book, Pittock is listed under 765P and 765Q. I've admittedly not much collected or paid attention to most Pittsburgh CWT's.
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Thanks Exo, Learned quite a bit with researching tokens and from this forum. Maybe I will start hunting CWT's.
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I can confirm that the 3'd edition of the Fuld Store Card book did rework the Pittock token listings. The variety numbers are up to 34 now For those with the new book they are listed on pages 536 and 537. Looks like Pittock used seven custom dies and 21 different stock dies.
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