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New Zealand
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Can buy for around $65. But I can't examine the coin in advance. It is guaranteed to be genuine. To me, the toning is funky but I guess it wouldn't be the first Morgan with funky toning. More of a concern is the rim ding under the date. Looks like an invitation to a "details" grade. What do you think?   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3479 Posts |
About the only thing I can tell from those pics, is that it has nice circulated cameo. the ding isn't large enough to detail it. If it's guaranteed authentic from a trusted source, buy it. Looks xf to me.
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Valued Member
 New Zealand
148 Posts |
Thanks, Mike. I've just pulled the trigger. At that price, not much to lose...
I don't collect Morgans but this is the second in as many weeks that I couldn't resist.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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it looks at least xf. that would make it at least a $400 coin. why would someone sell it for $65? would suspect authenticity until seen in hand.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It has the look of a cast counterfeit and I can't match it to any of the known die pairings. It looks like a C4 reverse die but the date position and mint mark are off the known positions.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yea it looks off to me too. It has that doctored antique look to it. I hope you have a full return policy if it isn't genuine.
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Valued Member
New Zealand
148 Posts |
The coin is being sold by a pawn shop (in another city). It seems they may be selling based on a mark-up rather than actual value (keep in mind that this is NZ where US coins are little understood). The coin is definitely returnable if not genuine. Maybe too good to be true but nothing to lose expect a bit of time... |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
The piece does not appear genuine in these images.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Maybe too good to be true but nothing to lose expect a bit of time... That's a smart gamble.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The coin looks off to me also.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3177 Posts |
Denticles and toning, looks fake to me  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yea it looks off to me too. It has that doctored antique look to it. I hope you have a full return policy if it isn't genuine. That doctored antique is characteristic of Chinese counterfeits. The dentils don't look right and the reverse has full MS detail on an AU50 coin. Here's a $1300 AU50 piece certified by NGC for comparison.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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and the reverse has full MS detail on an AU50 coin Second that! |
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Valued Member
New Zealand
148 Posts |
Yeah... the more I look at this, the more I am inclined to believe the coin is a fake. A couple of things are standing out at the moment: the shoulder gap looks wrong and, as mentioned above, the mint mark positions matches no VAMs. Time to save both me and the seller any more grief.
Note to self: stick to LCs.
Thanks everyone.
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02/08/2018 10:38 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
United States
484 Posts |
Don't buy it! Bet you $100 it's a Chinese fake.
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Posted 02/08/2018 9:17 pm
