Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1903-S Morgan - Your Thoughts?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 27 / Views: 2,166Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
CoinCollector2012's Avatar
United States
8137 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It has the same look as many Chinese fakes.
Pillar of the Community
SilverDollar2017's Avatar
United States
8715 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely fake.
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ouch! Pass. Return if you can.
Edited by Coinfrog
02/09/2018 10:51 am
Valued Member
United States
271 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BassPro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
how do you know its fake people?
Rest in Peace
dave700x's Avatar
United States
10625 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  2:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
how do you know its fake people?



Quote:
It has the look of a cast counterfeit and I can't match it to any of the known die pairings. It looks like a C4 reverse die but the date position and mint mark are off the known positions.


By studying what authentic coins look like. The date and mint mark positions do not match any VAM listings. http://www.vamworld.com/1903-S+VAMs
Pillar of the Community
SilverDollar2017's Avatar
United States
8715 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
how do you know its fake people?


Quite a few markers that tell me it's fake. First of all, compare images of a cast counterfeit to a real Morgan dollar. You will see an immediate difference.
Secondly, I can see that the lettering and date just look "off" - they don't look like a legitimate Morgan dollar. The eagle on the reverse looks wrong too - it has full detail, but yet the rest of the coin exhibits AU condition wear, which means something isn't right. Finally, the coin doesn't match any known VAMs.

BassPro, I can post images of my real 1903 Morgan dollar that is in AU condition if you like, and you can compare them to your fake.
Valued Member
United States
271 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BassPro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is not my coin -silver- but I am very interested in telling real from fake. What do 'denticals' mean? I see people saying that. 'SilverDollar' if you have comparing photos please show and thanks for your time.
Pillar of the Community
Slider23's Avatar
United States
4469 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slider23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is what see that would make me believe that the coin is counterfiet. The toning is typical for a Chinese fake, there are what appears to be cast bump on the cheek. On reverse the wings look like there has been environmental damage, but most likely cast pot marks, the details in the breast feathers look better than a coin in XF condition, Dave 700 can not match a VAM.
Edited by Slider23
02/09/2018 4:32 pm
Pillar of the Community
SilverDollar2017's Avatar
United States
8715 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with Slider23

Here are images of my 1903 Morgan dollar:

1903-S-Morgan---Your-Thoughts?
1903-S-Morgan---Your-Thoughts?

Denticles are the little bumps on the edge of the coin. See below image:
1903-S-Morgan---Your-Thoughts?
Edited by SilverDollar2017
02/09/2018 4:38 pm
Valued Member
United States
271 Posts
 Posted 02/09/2018  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BassPro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you sivlerdollar. The coin looked off to me but wasn't sure. I have been going through the 150 coins I bought recently. So far they all look good.
Valued Member
Aoraki's Avatar
New Zealand
148 Posts
 Posted 02/11/2018  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Aoraki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By the way... money refunded before the coin was posted. Seller genuinely interested in how to spot a fake Morgan. Seems he has a few others from the same source.

I'm sticking to Large Cents from here on...
Valued Member
jmwilson's Avatar
240 Posts
 Posted 02/12/2018  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmwilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My first impression before reading any of the other posts was that this coin is fake.
  Previous TopicReplies: 27 / Views: 2,166Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.33 seconds to rattle this change. Forums