1808 Spain (Seville) 8 Reales. Real Or Fake?

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timnic44 Pillar of the Community Canada 535 Posts	Posted 02/18/2018 3:19 pm I am wondering if this is a legit or fake coin and if it is real, what the value of it is. Thank you in advance for your comments/expertise. Report this Post to the Staff

westernsky Pillar of the Community United States 7617 Posts	Posted 02/18/2018 3:26 pm The dark toning around the devices leads me to believe it is probably a Chinese fake. Report this Post to the Staff
joehayden52 New Member United States 20 Posts	Posted 02/18/2018 4:11 pm I have several of these and many look similar to yours. I wouldn't consider it fake at all due to the damage and wear. If it's a Chinese fake it's one that's very old imho. Like 100 years old. The Chinese suck at faking wear and tear if they weren't we'd all be in trouble. Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 02/18/2018 6:15 pm Quote: The Chinese suck at faking wear and tear if they weren't we'd all be in trouble. Ehhhh..... you sure about that? Quote: The dark toning around the devices leads me to believe it is probably a Chinese fake. Waaaaaay too simplistic. Obviously, MOST circulated coins show some degree of toning/patina around the devices: -- lazy part-cleanings/wipes often do not reach into these protected areas -- constant handling/circulation rubbing has a similar effect. Again, as those areas are protected, our palms/fingertips don't get in those nooks -- metal flow can lead to differential tone around the peripheral legends, etc. You have to be able to differentiate what is natural from what is not. Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 02/18/2018 6:39 pm Very Good, details, damage. Report this Post to the Staff
timnic44 Pillar of the Community Canada 535 Posts	Posted 02/18/2018 8:25 pm What would be the retail value of this coin? Report this Post to the Staff
westernsky Pillar of the Community United States 7617 Posts	Posted 02/18/2018 8:35 pm Send it in for TPG. Authenticity questions would then be answered. Please keep us posted. Thx and good luck! Report this Post to the Staff
swamperbob Pillar of the Community United States 5362 Posts	Posted 03/01/2018 9:12 pm westernsky You say: Quote: Send it in for TPG. Authenticity questions would then be answered. Odd to hear such blind reliance in TPGs that do not even weigh the coins that are submitted to them. Today none of the TPGs determine SG or employ XRF unless an added fee is assessed. I am of the opinion that scientific testing is a must for any World Coin that is not mass produced using modern hubs and presses. Edited by swamperbob 03/01/2018 9:13 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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