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Has a series of standard tests ever been done on the well (ground) water? pH total suspended solids total dissolved salts turbidity coliform count A water softener will only remove semi soluble cations (calcium++), they will flock into suspension, that then have to be filtered out (usually by reverse osmosis), filters have to be replaced regularly. Can drink without filtering quite safely, without any risk. The only pH (7) neutral water is distilled water. Most naturally occurring ground (spring) water is far from pH neutral. Some natural ground waters have to have dissolved heavy metal cations stripped out. This is done with soluble hydroxide dosing (NaOH) to precipitate and filter the heavy metal hydroxides, then pH correction applied. Most commercially available detergents are alkaline (high pH) Sulfur will yield black sulfide patinas on domestic silver, which is usually kept thin with rubbing when cleaned. Residual sulfide and atmospheric oxygen will combine to help re tone brightened silver. I will agree that sulfide in the water would be the main culprit. The tea towels used to dry the silver will also have some residual sulfide, because they were probably cleaned in the same water. I drink town mains water (Sydney), which originated from rainfall over limestone country. Water is sand filtered chlorinated, fluoridated and pH corrected. This water is perfectly suitable for drinking, almost everybody does. I then filter it again, and pass it through a series of electrically charged titanium platinum plated plates. The flow is pH split into two equal parts: pH 8.5, which I drink, and pH 5.5, which can be used for personal skin cleaning. Perhaps my insides have developed a nice dark patina as well!  Edited by sel_69l
02/20/2018 07:35 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Water is different everywhere. Even after filtering, many items stay in the water that are to small to filter out. Also, some water dissolve materials, such as many acids, do not remove easily with filters. And don't forget all water softener materials are not the same so results vary by manufacture. To sum it all up, such experimentation with water and Silver can vary from person to person and their water.
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Silverplate does not tone the same way that sterling silver tones. Also, post the hallmarks of the spoon pictured. That does not look like silverplate to me.
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I personally am not a fan of toned coins, but especially not of artificially toned coins.
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You had me at Froot Loops.  Interesting observations. Good luck with the experiment. |
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Has a series of standard tests ever been done on the well (ground) water? Yes I had the water tested at the time I bought the house and someplace I have the results. I don't think I can learn too much about the chemistry. I had a buddy who worked for the water dept and he explained that my water was pretty nasty with hardness and Sulphur after reading the test results. Don't get me wrong, I am not suffering here. The maintenance I do has been a 90% or better improvement. It can be ingested right out of the tap and there are only certain times after a lot of rain or snow melting that I can still smell the water. I may have gotten used to it too. The soap gets nice and sudsy. LOL Quote:
Silverplate does not tone the same way that sterling silver tones. Also, post the hallmarks of the spoon pictured. That does not look like silverplate to me. Definately silver plate but heavy silverplate. I can see where it has worn off some places on all the spoons. That area stays bright. Quote:I drink town mains water (Sydney), which originated from rainfall over limestone country. Water is sand filtered chlorinated, fluoridated and pH corrected. This water is perfectly suitable for drinking, almost everybody does. I then filter it again, and pass it through a series of electrically charged titanium platinum plated plates. The flow is pH split into two equal parts: pH 8.5, which I drink, and pH 5.5, which can be used for personal skin cleaning. Perhaps my insides have developed a nice dark patina as well!  I got a special zinc rod and put it in my hot water heater and took out the aluminum or magnesium one that was in there. ( reminds me I have to check it soon ) It is a sacrificial rod that slowly corrodes instead of the pipes and fixtures taking the effects. The same principle as annodes on salt water boat engines outdrives. Quote:
I personally am not a fan of toned coins, but especially not of artificially toned coins. I like natural toned coins and bright white ones just the same. I am just doing a test. I wouldn't try to decieve anyone with artificially toned coins. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My wife buys organic so it's Amazon Flakes for me. I also like Puffins. I would imagine a high sulfur content will quickly tone silver. Interesting experiment  |
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United States
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Already 6 days into this, I think I can see a golden tone starting nearest the rim.
A picture won't help yet, but it has been in and out with the dishes at least 15 -20 times.
I know cause I do almost all the dishes around here. Every other day I run some hot water and drop it in a coin tube and screw down the lid for the night. Then it goes back on the soft cotton pad in a gift box to dry on the windowsill.
A watched pot never boils ... well, yes it does
but a watched coin never tones. LOL
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Already 6 days into this, I think I can see a golden tone starting nearest the rim. Soooooo, how much for a gallon of that water? |
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Already 6 days into this, I think I can see a golden tone starting nearest the rim. Very nice!  Quote:
A watched pot never boils ... well, yes it does
but a watched coin never tones. LOL |
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Already 6 days into this, I think I can see a golden tone starting nearest the rim.
A picture won't help yet, but it has been in and out with the dishes at least 15 -20 times. I may be misreading this, but does that mean you wash dishes about three times a day?  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Yes, 2 or three times I wash the dishes a day. Definitely 2 at least. Breakfast and supper. My dishes and counter are very clean. LOL Edited by TNG
02/25/2018 10:27 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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About 12 days and I took a couple pictures of it at the windowsill on a gray day here this morning. I can see it has turned a bit golden toned and no real conclusion can be made. Whether it is the water or the windowsill or a combination of the two. I am just going to let it sit on the windowsill now and forget about it for awhile. No more water experimenting. Will update when I notice a drastic change in color. Before and After     |
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Interesting results.  |
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