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a 1794 Large Cent ending tomorrow on ebay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/302640968881Somebody is about to pay a lot for it and I am 99.99% certain it is counterfeit, based upon Liberty's bizarre nose tip and protruding lips. Plus on the reverse the ribbons and stems do not meet in the same way as on what I believe to be an attempted Head of 1793 variety. The seller has no feedback, which is 'covered' by his statement that he is 'selling his father's estate'. He has already sold 69 coins and who knows how many fakes. Is it possible to inform ebay without making a purchase? Somebody is about to get taken to the cleaners on this. Which is very troubling because it drains needed money from the genuine market. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq
02/24/2018 3:51 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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It does not appear legitimate.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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All signs point to the exit.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 for sure... |
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Quote:
All signs point to the exit. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Yup. There's that crack TypeCoin, in the correct location. I missed it when I looked through the photos.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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02/26/2018 07:59 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I compared it to other large cents, and it looks real. It appears to be a legitimate Large Cent.
I think that I posted in haste here.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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S-44 die stage IV. Looks genuine to me.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Thank you all for weighing in. Must confess that I over-reacted - based largely on being sick and borderline furious over the whole Chinese counterfeit situation.
Jack B., who has a detailed series about deceptively struck fake large cents in CoinWeek, has corrected my false alarm, assuring that it is genuine.
So the 0.01% uncertainty was good, although I remain amazed at the face (nose & lips) of Liberty looking so stretched. Turns out it is an optical illusion, a result of the lack of detail along the forehead not interrupting the eye cf. to the PCGS photo examples. So protrusions stand out.
A good lesson. Will not be spouting off w/o checking Sheldon first.
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Pillar of the Community
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Do counterfeit coins usually have such dramatic die cracks or decades old bronze disease damage? These baseless "this coin is fake" posts need to chill...
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United States
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Yes, and I apologize for adding fuel to the fire.
In fact the fakers have produced large cents with accurate die cracks. Proof of this comes from Jack B., who has the excellent series about deceptively struck large cents in CoinWeek. In replying to the question about this coin, he wrote, "We have documented a couple of S-44 fakes but both had the die breaks tooled away."
So yes, apparently when the miscreants start with a genuine source coin die cracks are to be expected.
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