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no time to translate, sorry for that, you should learn a bit of the Germanic Languages, they are interesting  the taler below (Halberstadt 1544) is a real gem with an attractive patina, but it has one defect as you can see not difficult to guess which side of this coin the original owner preferred   |
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Quote:a thread about Sanctus Stephanus Proto Martyr would already be very cool https://www.coingallery.de/Heilige/S/Stephanus.htm 1c5d, I have explored a bit more on that link, and I think it is the best existing reference on this subject. Bravo! The index https://www.coingallery.de/Heilige/index.htm is an excellent guide to the linkage between saints and places, something I have been seeking for a while. From my own research, I can add a few more: - St. Thomas the Apostle is pictured on coins of Parma and Portuguese Africa. He is not mentioned on the list, and because Thomas is one of the 12, is an important one (I just acquired one recently at auction). - St. James (Jacobus der Apostel) and St. John are pictured together on a coin of Urbino. These two saints are listed separately in your reference, on other coins. - St. Joseph (father of Jesus) is pictured on a coin of the Papal States - St. Nicolas is also the patron saint of Lorraine, and there is a wonderful ducat with both his image, and an image related to a miracle in which he resurrects three murdered children. It could be fun to choose some of the saints who appear in coins of many places to continue the thread (or start a new one). For instance, on the "How Far Back can we Go" thread, we just saw a 1560 Mansfeld Thaler with an image of St. George. Edited by tdziemia
04/09/2018 5:14 pm
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It could be fun to choose some of the saints who appear in coins of many places to continue the thread could be interesting indeed - but I can only watch and read from the sideline for most saints as a starting saint, either Saint Stephan (the first martyr) of Saint Eligius (the saint of coin collectors) seem to have equal rights |
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Posted also in another thread, perhaps interesting to post it here too: a jeton from Brussels (Dugniole 1357, van Orden 314 - variant from pieces dated 1538), of the highest rarity depicting the two saints of the city of Brussels obverse Sainte Gudule, a timid lady famous for her piety, holding the lantern of light and harassed by evil who wants to steal the light. The legend explains this is a jeton: IECT x POV x LES x RECEV x DE x LA x VILE x DE x BRVCEL reverse shows a familiar scene from Brussels coins: Archangel Michael, slaying the same evil creature with vivid expression in the two faces; the legend states SANCTE x MICHAEL x ITERCED x PRO x NOBIS x the intervention of the patron of the city to protect against disaster it would be interesting to see other coins showing Sainte Gudule   |
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Wonderful imagery on that jeton! I have never seen a coin with St. Gudule. The only reference book on Brabant coins I have is Ghyssens, and there is no coin with her image in the years covered (11th to 14th c.). Some of her relics are also in Eibingen (Germany), so we might look there, but she is not in the list of saints in the Saurma catalog. I do have a Brussels coin with St. Michael, the nice double esterlin of Jean I. I don't have a photo of mine, but here is a recent auction photo:  |
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thanks tdziemia the coin you show is very cool too, I had one myself a long time ago and now realize I should have kept it instead of selling it Sainte Gudule apparently lived near Brussels in a small town close to Aalst. The best known memory today of her name is the magnificent Cathedral of Sainte Gudule et Saint Michel in Brussels; fanstastic building completely renovated just before the marriage of our king Philip with queen Mathilde below a statue of Sainte Gudule in the cathedral, where the lantern she is holding is not threatened but protected, a very comforting thought  |
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Since it's (a) medieval, (b) a saint, and (c) somewhat obscure, (though I don't think it is really rare), I will post this recent auction win here, a teston from Messerano, Luigi Fieschi 1528-32 (now Piedmont, Italy). On the reverse, it bears an image of St. Theonestus, whose story seems rather confused. According to one version, he was with St. Alban, bishop of Mainz, when Alban was martyred by the Vandals in the early 5th century. First image is the coin. Second image is a roughly contemporary work of art.   |
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I will post this recent auction win here, a teston from Messerano very nice piece with good portrait and attractive patina, which I find very important for a coin below is a curiosity that deserves a place, when all the saints go marching home  a fire gilded (vermeil) taler (1568) from Salentin of Isenburg, who was Archbishop of Cologne, Germany, from 1567-1577 obv: Saint Peter holding the key and holy book of the Roman Catholic Church the coin is not of very quality, maybe the gilding has smoothened some of the details on the coin - yet I like the way it was transformed into an ornament to wear; still in its original pendant ; the silver gilded ring plate around the coin has an inscription: likely the initials of the first owner    |
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The Italian coin has a medium gray patina, nice and uniform. It's a bonus to have the saint AND a nice Renaissance portrait.
Even if the thaler used in your pendant is somewhat worn, the St. Peter has nice detail. I'm not sure I have seen many full length portaits of him outside of Papal States coins (where he is showing up regularly ... no great surprise). And there is a clear sense of motion to the figure ... a man who has a mission.
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And there is a clear sense of motion to the figure ... a man who has a mission thanks for a keen observation ! I did not notice this snapshot of movement before, but is is there Archbishop Salentin von Isenburg was a a man with a mission too. He got the prestigious title without even being consecrated as a priest. He was a military man and strongly supported by the Emperor. One should see this in the light of the strong religious turbulence in nearby Spanish Netherlands, so a strong military leader in Köln was apparently of greater importance than a devote priest. In 1577 Salentin IX stepped down as Archbishop in order to marry Antonia Wilhelmina of Arenberg, and continue the long bloodline of the von Isenburg family (he succeeded in this effort: his two sons being Salentin X and Ernest I). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salen...burg-Grenzauhttps://www.koelner-dom.de/geschich...senburg/?L=1 |
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the first martyr, Saint Stephen, but it's a lot trickier to figure out why he shows up on medieval coins of Metz, Halberstadt and Passau. Quote:
... and Nijmegen here is one of by better coins, issued by the city of Nijmegen, Ghelders there are some similarities and differences compared to the Halberstadt taler posted on a previous page NIJMEGEN Stephanus daalder n.d. (1562/3) Delm.636 (R2) van der Chijs 3,28 Dav. 8544 Passon 46 OBV: kneeling saint Stephanus with plied hands between S S the symbolic stones are above his right shoulder and besides his head DNE NE STATVAS ILLIS HO PECCAT (domine ne statuas illis hoc peccatum, lord do not blame them this sin REV: imperial coat-of-arms Nijmegen NVMVS ARGEN REIPUBLICAE NOVIMAGIENS   Edited by 1c5d7n5m
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