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"Have you any of the elusive spondulicks on you?" asked W.C. Fields in "My Little Chickadee".
Incoming Message to the Dastardly Dansco from the Interplanetary Macrograders: "Cease your evil brainwashing of the earthling numismics! Allow them to grow and flourish on their own without outside interference. Is that asking too much? Sure, they will make mistakes and perhaps wallow in petty greed, poverty and wars, but that's part of maturing, part of being human, part of being alive! We know you do not share our common philosophy of protecting their elusive spondulicks at all costs for future generations to enjoy. Since you belligerently left the council on behalf of rust and corrosion everywhere, we have adopted new policies which should be noted in your log books: 1) do not coerce the inhabitants of coincommunity to do anything which they might later regret; 2) no time-warp-obtained coin shows allowed on the second moon around Liptus.
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Cease your evil brainwashing of the earthling numismics! A shot across the bow?  Begun, the "Album versus Slab" War has!  Quote:
2) no time-warp-obtained coin shows allowed on the second moon around Liptus Does that mean we can finally put a stop to the recurring time travel threads? No? Maybe?  Seriously, to each their own. Ultimately, Johnny should do what makes him happiest!  (Even if it means that hole in his Dansco might cause him many sleepless nights!) |
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You are correct, Lt. JBuck. I was only referencing johnny54321's problem as to how it might fit into the context of the greater good of the coin federation. Perhaps I overreached my mission. Sorry for any insubordination on my part. It's back to the galley for me. Yes, johnny54321 (must be the son of an astronaut with those decending numerals attached to his name) blast-off and do what makes you happiest and darn the rust!
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You are correct, Lt. JBuck "You see these little oak leaves? They're silver. That means I'm a lieutenant-colonel."Okay, I will quit quoting and mis-quoting movies, even though that Connery quote was 100% spot on!  Quote:
Perhaps I overreached my mission. Sorry for any insubordination on my part. No harm, no foul, mfry! Every opinion matters here!  |
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I do see the oak leaves now, and I sure should have seen the glint of the luster of examining a 100,000 coins in your eyes (with 30 years of coin collecting). Brash foolishness on my part. You probably lost more valuable coins than I ever possessed!
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Do not confuse the quantity of my years with the quality of my experience! |
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You guys are hilarious! lol. Anyways, I was talking my "situation" over with my dad; and he had a good idea imo. He's pretty handy with woodwork and display type stuff. He mentioned that what we could do is build an additionaly page(leather or varnished wood) for the dansco. Then we could cut a square hole in the center the size for the ngc slab. We could put the slab in, and build a small frame to highlight it, then drill the appropriate 3 holes in the page to fit into the Dansco. Since I'm getting a new Dansco, I may be able to use the back cover page of the old one as the page in the new one. This way, I can keep it in the ngc slab, and actually highlight it as the trophy coin in the album, since it will have it's own page and frame. Does this make sense? The only downside is that technically I will still have an empty hole for the svdb; but it will still be an obvious part of the collection, and the slab can still be removed intact if I needed to sell someday.
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Interesting idea! If you do this, I would love to see photos! As for the hole, you could make a "token" or "plug" saying "see final page" or something to that effect.
Another idea is to see about getting and modifying a blank un-holed page from Dansco. If they do not sell one, then there here might be a page that has fewer pre-existing holes that could be modified to holder the slab.
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That's the best of both worlds, Johnny54321! Why didn't I think of that? Probably because I'm not handy like your dad with things like that. But that is a great idea. I like it alot!
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thanks guys.....
ok, for the story. I'm not sure if I'm just the guy that everyone learns from? or if I just have bad luck numismatically. Or maybe I'm just overly critical regarding all of my purchases.
So I got the coin today. Beautiful rich deep chocolate brown XF-45. I took time during my lunch break to inspect it over. All of the authentication techniques for the svdb match up. Slanted crossbar in the "b". #2 S mintmark position. Then I check the slab based on NGC's website, and everything matches up. Gorgeous surfaces, hardly any blemishes....I'm thinking I got a winner.
I come back home later tonight to give her another look over.....and what do you know; between the bottom of Lincon's bust and the rim there is some blackish looking crud. I get on it with a magnifying glass, and it is a dark greenish material. It was hiding in the shadows between Lincoln's bust and the white edge of the slab. ARGGGGGGGGGGHHHH!
In normal lighting, it just looks like black residue, but under magnification, it's green. I believe it to be either verdigris or pvc. I was hoping it was just gunk, but I don't think so. It would probably come off in a mild acetone bath, but I doubt its worth the risk on such an expensive coin, especially since I would need to remove it from the slab. I will try to post pics if I can get my hand on a decent camera before my return time is up.
Question. Could this be something that NGC missed? Or maybe it formed while in the slab? Or maybe I'm just paranoid and creating green gunk in my brain? I mean seriously though, it took forever for me to find this issue, and I probably would have overlooked it even if I was able to view the coin in hand before purchasing. Other than that one spot, the coin is an absolute winner.
Sigghhhh, I believe our King Senior "Abe" may have cancer....and I don't have the cure. :-(
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interesting. Here is another cent on Heritage with some spots that have the same "color" as the one I have; and it is also NGC graded. Mine actually looks infinitely more clean than either of these. Much cleaner color. http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...&Lot_No=1015http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...Lot_No=62014Is a certain amount of this allowed? maybe I'm just paranoid? edit: WOW! I've been looking at svdbs in problem free slabs in the VF-XF range. About 30-40% of them had green residue similar in color to mine! Do a search for this coin in Heritage. Honestly, my coin is MUCH cleaner than 90% of them. Why is this allowed? I'm guessing because it is a key date, a small amount of corrosion is allowed if contained? Or maybe there is other green stuff that is not harmful to the coin? Edited by johnny54321
06/17/2008 03:37 am
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Ok, I need a sanity check. I'm seeing green on Heritage auction Lincolns EVERYWHERE! Maybe I'm colorblind or something? Here is a 14-d that looks to have some green somethings. http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...=62018#PhotoAlso, the ones that I've seen that are in an ANACS or NCS "corroded" slab, bave obvious pitting in addition to green meanies. Does anyone know the line in which a coin is considered "corroded" by top tier slabbers? I used to think that any spot of green would make it so. Edited by johnny54321
06/17/2008 3:05 pm
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I voted for the 1909 just because you asked what would be the better investment, and I feel that even though I don't collect Lincoln Cents there will always be more people that do collect them than there will be that collect the gold coins so as a investment I think the 09-sVDB would be better as a investment than the gold
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Quote:Here is a 14-d that looks to have some green somethings. http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...=62018#Photo As far as I can tell, everything you are seeing on that 14D is just circulation dirt and more brown than green. Perhaps your monitor color is off? Most coins with light wear will display a bit of light circulation crust around the devices that is just nothing more than your average pocket grime(dirt, finger grease, metal dust from other coins, etc) This crust is not to be confused with corrosion which is completely different. Crust is on the coin, corrosion is in the coin. That crust could be easily removed with acetone or xylene but then you risk having untoned areas underneath which could potentially give the coin an unnatural look. In reality, this is something that you probably should have researched before spending $1000+. If you spend that kind of money, you should know what the appropriate "look" is for a given coin. Also, just because it is in a slab, does not mean that a coin cannot be a dog. |
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Well, I don't know what to tell you on the possible trouble spot, but as for the display, I think your dad has a brilliant idea...
As far as filling the hole, what i'd probably do is take color photos of each side of the coin, and print them out on a high-quality photo-printer. Punch them out with an appropriate sized punch (if possible, or find somebody with really steady hands to cut them out), and glue them to either side of a blank planchet.
Kinda dorky, but the hole would really bug me.
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