Questiins About A Foreign Silver Coin Or Trade Coin Dated 1780

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Mckinley_4th Valued Member United States 68 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 04:45 am Hey I need help identifying this coin! My mom cleaned out her junk drawer today and found this and told me I could have it! I think it's pretty neat and has great detail on both sides! I would like to know what country it's from, what metal it's made from, the value and it's worth or is it worth keeping at all?!? Report this Post to the Staff

sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21786 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 07:12 am Originally struck in the date shown, but restruck up until about 1930, by many European Mints outside Austria. They were used as trade coins throughout the Middle east. They were trusted for their consistently good silver. That is why this one is in such nice condition. They can be identified by the experts, by the cartouche that is after the date. Report this Post to the Staff
bjherbison Valued Member United States 257 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 07:58 am Types described: http://www.theresia.name/en/ I appears to be III/C/SF/(e)/1-3-1, which narrows it down to five mints, probably Vienna. Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 10:33 am Value is a bit more than silver content. Most sell in the $10-12 price range. Keep in mind that the date of 1780 has nothing to do with the actual date it was minted in. Report this Post to the Staff
gg_cu Valued Member Canada 72 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 11:33 am They are still being struck today with the 1780 date, as collector proofs from the Vienna mint. Report this Post to the Staff
Arkie Pillar of the Community United States 2637 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 2:17 pm NGC currently has melt value at $12.50. https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...duid-1221520 Edited by Arkie 03/13/2018 2:17 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Mckinley_4th Valued Member United States 68 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 4:48 pm Thank you for explaining this to me! It's pretty cool coin and nice to know a little more about the history and detail! I appreciate it a lot Report this Post to the Staff
srcliff Valued Member United States 453 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 5:44 pm I see it has a loop soldered on but why is it not centered on the middle top of the coin? That would bug me, always hanging crooked. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16826 Posts	Posted 03/13/2018 9:49 pm Probably because it's not actually soldered, but screwed on. The band of metal is held in place around the coin by a small screw passing through the top. If the screw is too loose, then the coin can move. You might need special jeweller's tools to adjust the screw. Such a holder causes the least amount of damage to a coin, but it will still damage the coin. So don't take the mount off; since the coin itself is not worth very much to collectors, it is now worth more as jewellery than a damaged coin. You might, however, try to loosed the mount further so you can rotate the coin properly, then tighten it again. Regarding the silver fineness: the official fineness was .833, and this was adhered to by almost everyone who made trade replicas of them; Rome mint examples are .835, for example. This fineness is lower than that of American (.900) or Canadian (.925) circulating silver coins. Oh, and here's the Wikipedia page for the Maria Theresa thaler. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
srcliff Valued Member United States 453 Posts	Posted 03/16/2018 08:14 am A cool piece anyway especially if you are starting a European coin collection. Report this Post to the Staff
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