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Found An 1872 2 Cent Today!

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 Posted 06/09/2008  01:09 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mmerc20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok, perhaps it's a seriously lucky day today. I was at an auction and bought up some old military stuff since that's one of my main hobbies. In the bottom of the box was a coin purse with a few nice things pieces. There were a few large cents, some common dimes and buffalos, a decent 1931S Lincoln and then there was this! An 1872 2 cent! Now the wierd thing, it is underweight by RedBook standards. Its only 4.6 grams.
The patina is nice except for a strange oval lighter spot on the bottom of the wreath. I don't know if something was on the coin to prevent equal patinization or what.
Opinions are welcome. That's what I'm posting here for.

Mike

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 Posted 06/09/2008  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOW! looks great to me only 65,000 where made that year! I want one!

How was the coin laying in the box? Was it up against another coin or item? And what was it?
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06/09/2008 01:26 am
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 Posted 06/09/2008  01:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's very nice to see an old coin like that with original patina--congrats!
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 Posted 06/09/2008  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morgantype to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sell it, and buy more mi;litary stuff - or, better yet, buy a DANSCO and start filling it up with 2 CN pieces!
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 Posted 06/09/2008  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you get to 50 post's let me know!!
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 Posted 06/09/2008  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It was in a small coin purse with about 10 other coins. There were some large cents, some Buffalo nickels, a couple lincoln cents, a Peace dollar and some other stuff I can't remember off hand.

What does everyone make of the low weight? It doesn't seem terribly worn to explain that or am I just too paraniod?

Mike
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 Posted 06/09/2008  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mike:
The piece looks okay to me.

Nice purchase.

How about picutrres of the large cents?

And (gotta ask), how much did you pay?
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I think the weight is a big red flag!

It should weigh 6.2g. Rare date coins that do not weigh even close to the right amount make me very suspicious.

Is it the right size (23mm)?
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What does everyone make of the low weight? It doesn't seem terribly worn to explain that or am I just too paraniod?



It would be impossible for a coin that size to have 1.6g worn off and not be a damaged(i.e. holed) or a slick planchet at that point. I am very suspicious of the authenticity...
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I agree about the authenticity of the coin, something just doesn't look quite right in the date area but I am not a 2 cent expert or anything but the weight also has me worried about the authenticity of the coins
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 Posted 06/09/2008  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight was my big concern too. Thats why I was asking. On a side note, I paid $20 for the box of stuff.
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I'd like to see better pictures but the "2" looks a little weird to me in that photo. I don't think the coin can be that much underweight without exhibiting some very serious issues. I wonder if its a spark erosion counterfeit? Look for microscopic bumps over the surfaces of the coin, this could be evidence of how it was made.
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The weight is WAY too low. Also it is odd enough to find a chnage purse with a key date in it, but two key dates is really stretching things (1931-S cent). What are the dates on the other coins? Supposedly lightning has already struck twice, did it strike three, four or five times or more?
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 Posted 06/09/2008  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, what if the scale is suspect as well?
That's an interesting patina for a recent fake. It looks acquired over years.
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Did you measure the diameter too? It seems odd that someone would make a high quality fake such as that and be so off on the weight. I mean, it's only copper. I wouldn't think it would be hard to get the weight relatively close, then I'd be completely duped into thinking it was real(though that's not saying much).

Regardless, that was a nice purchase price for the lot even if this one is a fake. Is the 31-s real? Can you post a pic of it? Even a low grade one would be worth what you paid for the whole flippin lot!
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The weight concerns me as well. I hope it checks out. Is your scale accurate? I would try another scale to verify the weight.
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