Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin Auctions








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Possible 2005 Proof Lincoln Cent With No Frosting Or Mintmark?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 17 / Views: 2,374Next Topic
Page: of 2
Valued Member

United States
151 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  04:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Possible 2005 proof Lincoln Cent with no frosting or mintmark? It has FAR better, sharper details than new 2017 cents, the rim is a lot thicker than circulation cents, and the outside rim edge is almost uniform in thickness (except in one small area), rather than wavering a lot like normal cents. If I post pictures, could you all tell me if it's an error proof (maybe based on the rims or some other feature)? Thanks!
Edited by shaney777
03/24/2018 04:59 am
Moderator
Learn More...
Fuzzy317's Avatar
United States
14463 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although it is unlikely for a modern coin.
Valued Member
United States
151 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  04:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fuzzy317, I edited my original post a bit to be a little more accurate, so you may wish to read it again. And also I just noticed that there is hub doubling on the date!
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Edited by shaney777
03/24/2018 04:58 am
Valued Member
United States
151 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now I am thinking that rather than the 2005 showing hub doubling, it may be three different die markers/breaks (?). There is one covering the whole top of the 2, one at the top of the 2's bottom, and one in the middle of the 5, at the top. But the 2 is also showing a split serif on the bottom left corner, so I don't know what to make of that. But I am mostly interested in if this is a partial proof coin.
Valued Member
United States
151 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  04:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some closer pictures of the rim. It has a depression line going through the center of it. I don't know if that is normal or not.
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Edited by shaney777
03/24/2018 04:56 am
Pillar of the Community
SilverDollar2017's Avatar
United States
8715 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just a really nice uncirculated cent.
Pillar of the Community
RoyCoinBoy's Avatar
United States
1609 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyCoinBoy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Not a proof, just a clean uncirculated.
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  1:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep.



to the CCF!
Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The proof cents have a lot mirror like fields. Frosted devices. Yours is just a business strike coin from Philadelphia.
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?

Your coin was hit on the reverse of the left cornice area by a wrapping machine that removed the plating. Just a spender. Not a proof coin.
Edited by coop
03/24/2018 2:01 pm
Valued Member
United States
151 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the responses! Hmm... But aren't the features I mentioned indicative of a proof coin? I can't understand why the rim would be so thick, uniformly thick, and raised. And why would the details be so sharp and "3D" like? I have uncirculated 2017 cents that look like trash in the details compared to this one. What does the "squared off" rim appearance on proofs look like? I guess I am mostly wondering how an older proof can be identified when it has been in circulation a long time (no mirror, frost, or mintmark).
Valued Member
Ilikeabecoins's Avatar
United States
262 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ilikeabecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
sharper details than new 2017 cents

I think they look like mush.

I found this CRH. It is an impaired proof with a cameo frosting (not perfect anymore due to circulation and the spot on the reverse).

Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Edited by Ilikeabecoins
03/24/2018 11:15 pm
Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I prefer the 1960-1964 proof cents. They look so fine.
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
But the fields on your coin are anything like a proof cents fields. Some coins just look better, but they are not proof coins.
Valued Member
United States
151 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2018  11:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ilikeabecoins, I did recently notice that 2017 cents look a lot worse than general cents from ten years ago. I wonder why? Something different happened, and it surely wasn't for the best. I like your impaired proof a lot! I found a 1982-S dime in some car change a while back, and it looks similar to yours, although the front finish on it is completely gone.

coop, Did you see the bit I wrote about the date? What do you think happened? Is it die chips, or is it hub doubling? If it's die chips, I find it odd that one is the exact same shape as the top of the 2. It's almost like it "followed" what was already there.
Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2018  12:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually on the date there are no notching present on the coin. The coin is normal. But you are using a two sets of light.
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Where the lights overlap, they cause that area to look like notches when it is really not the case. So even the rough plating showing the rolling lines are enhanced because of the lighting. Try shutting off one light and take a set of images. You will note a big change. Micro-photos are betters with just one light source causing light and shadows. When you use too much light, it removes that affect.
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
Excessive light creates glare.
Possible-2005-Proof-Lincoln-Cent-With-No-Frosting-Or-Mintmark?
While someone wants to show something, too much light makes too much glare.


Valued Member
Ilikeabecoins's Avatar
United States
262 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2018  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ilikeabecoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I like your impaired proof a lot!

Thanks shaney. I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw it.
Valued Member
United States
151 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2018  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shaney777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As always, I really appreciate the help! I have about 10 other coins I am curious about, but I feel like I shouldn't post all that much, as it's mostly the same dedicated members answering. I don't want to get bothersome or annoying with a lot of posts, so I'll try to keep it centered on what I see to be more significant possibilities.
  Previous TopicReplies: 17 / Views: 2,374Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.39 seconds to rattle this change. Forums