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1980 D Over S Cent. Not The Debunked One

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I don't have the best camera right now, the only "good" pics I could take were through a loupe, I couldn't take any pictures of just the coin. If needed I'll try to get a better phone. So I found this 1980 d cent and noticed it looked like a d/d but after investigating it looks to me to be a d/s. Any thoughts? Might be a d/d/s
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Pics are not the best as mentioned, but it looks kike a hit and a damage to the Northwest of the MM.

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Hi Ryan, with Chase.
Looks like gunk piled up on a damaged MM.
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What did the debunked D and S look like:
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It was debunked when an earlier die state coin was found with out the damage noted on the die that looked like an 'S'.
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The idea of a mint struck error d/s would not make sense ,and I believe impossible.
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Wexler has one listed for 1981-D and S also:

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1981-D 1¢ WDMM-001

Description: An apparent S mint mark can be found north of the D mint mark.

Die Markers: Obverse: Die scratch from inside lower right G of GOD NW into the field. Reverse: Die gouge on upper side of slanted bar of N in CENT almost to junction of right vertical bar. Die gouge in field east of center of T in CENT.

http://doubleddie.com/921576.html
To me it looks like die flow.
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I appreciate the feedback, I'll try to get some better pics, it really looks like an S to me but I admit you guys know way more than I do. MrCanada I assume you are saying a d/s is not possible because at this point they only made proofs at the San Francisco Mint?
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True proofs are struck then at San Francisco. But how made the dies and added the mint marks. I know the three mints do now, but back then? (don't know)
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Before 1978 the mint mark was hand stamped on the die, this was the issue with the '42 Jefferson nickel d over horizontal d. I read an article recently about it.
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