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Unidentified Coin #1 - Huge Thin Islamic Ae

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 Posted 04/06/2018  2:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Without much else to do at the moment, I decided to send (photos of) some of my coins for attribution/identification here.

This one is an Islamic AE, 32-33 mm, about 4.0 grams (I've misplaced my electronic scale again, so this is a ruler-balance estimate).

Unidentified-Coin-#1---Huge-Thin-Islamic-Ae Unidentified-Coin-#1---Huge-Thin-Islamic-Ae

Any ideas what this might be?

I've searched on Zeno a few weeks ago, and found several similar types, but I have completely forgotten what they were, there was nothing that looked like an exact match, and I sadly cannot get Zeno to open for me today.

Sorry for the awful photo quality (smartphone camera on flash).
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Saudi?

J1M, I'd hate to see your apartment! You're always misplacing things, must be worse than my garage!

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Looks early Abbasid.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/is...hates-1.html

Try this one, it will be in this range, can't see details clear enough on your to a solid match.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces82068.html
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04/06/2018 4:22 pm
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Definitely not the one you linked. No square around the legend, and far too tiny.
(If anything, it's a much better fit for my second coin.)

Also, I'm about 92% sure that this coin isn't silver (though I suppose it might be low-end billon). The photos are lightened due to the flash; in hand it's darker.
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It's a "broad dirham" of Central Asian fabric, circa 12th-13th century. These were struck in silvered billon by the Qarakhanids, Khwarizmshahs, Mongols and others. I will update if something more specific comes to mind.
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Qarakhanids, Rukn al-Din Muhammad bin Mas'ud, 1171-1179, AE dirham, type of Samarqand, dated AH [57]3(?). Album 3401.

The center legend in the first photo recites the Muslim Kalima with the name of the 'Abbasid caliph al-Mustadi below. The central square of the second image names the ruler: Tafghaj / al-khaqan al-a'dil al-'azam Rukn / al-Dunya wa al-Din / Muhammad bin Qilij / Khan. ("The just and mighty Khaqan, Pillar of the World and of the Faith, Muhammad son of [Mas'ud] Qilij Tafghaj Khan").

Only the digit of the date (written out in words) is visible in the margin; thelath "3" is my best guess.

Compare:
https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=46419
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04/07/2018 05:05 am
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Thanks!

It seems to fit in the 1170s, so I just dropped it into the Walking Back by Decades thread
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