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I would think probably MS63 on the first Buffalo and AU55-AU58 on the second. Both have good strikes without any major distractions; the 1917-D in particular, since a lot of the ones I see are flatly struck. I'm no expert on grading these, though, so I'll wait and see what other people have to say.
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MS-63 and AU-58 would be my best estimates.
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Both AU58 - can't be an MS as they both show a touch of circulation wear!
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That's funny. The 1923 (second one) seems to have more definition and deeper cuts in the hair and feather and a more complete buffalo. But what do I know?
What does flatly struck mean?
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I see what you mean. How is that coin ms63? Looks terrible. Based on the buffalo head and shoulders, I can't see anything on ebay that matches the 1923 ecept ms63 and up. Au58s look terrible. There must be something I don't get because some of the 63s have more definition than higher ones. |
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There must be something I don't get because some of the 63s have more definition than higher ones Ken, keep in mind that a coin's grade is generally determined by five criteria: strike, preservation, luster, color, and attractiveness. Thus, a weakly struck highly lustrous coin with clean fields can grade higher than a fully struck example lacking luster and full of chatter. Keep at it, you will develop a feel for it. It never hurts to consider picking up a couple of PCGS or NGC graded common date coins to use as an in hand reference while learning a new series. The toughest are always the AU-58's (sliders). Edited by hadleydog
04/23/2018 01:00 am
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I realize that. Still havent seen a 1923 au58 or even ms62 that looks close to the 1923 pictured.
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1923 - has nice luster the coin is showing signs of circulation rub on the high points. AU58 to MS62
1917 D - the coin has a porous area in front of the chiefs face. There are a couple of rim dings in the same area. The porous area would give me concern that the coin could grade AU details. Check the porous area once you get it in hand if you see small pitting send it back to seller.
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how much does the coin lose for rim dings? Not sure how to check the porous area. Is that a sign of cleaning?
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So what do you think they're worth?
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The rim dings should not cause the coin to lose value, but they are a little distracting. The porous area is not a sign of cleaning, but could be environmental damage. You need look at the coin under magnification and check for pits in the metal.
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Here is a little better photo of the porous area.  |
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