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Coin Collectors - Are We Growing As A Community?

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 Posted 06/16/2008  10:49 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
With the many "cool" alternatives to coin collecting - does anyone have statistical data as to how the hobby is doing globally? Are younger people getting involved or is it just adults?
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 Posted 06/16/2008  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the very essence of this forum answers your question

Now I'm gonna wait here patiently til a mod posts some forum stats
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 Posted 06/16/2008  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zohar444- I will say that in the view of most kids & teens, numismatics is one of the most uncool things to be interested in. When I was back in high school, I had to keep it a top secret from my friends that I was a numismatist. When I did reveal it to a couple of closer friends, they acted as though I had just admitted to some sort of crime or other atrocity. A lot of young people don't get the concept that there is an organized community of numismatists in the sense that there are coin conventions, and journals, and forums, and etc. Many teenagers would think that a coin collector is some sort of obsessive person with serious emotional problems, which drives them to fill an entire room of their house with loose, common circulating coins.
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 Posted 06/16/2008  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichirensha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many teenagers would think that a coin collector is some sort of obsessive person with serious emotional problems, which drives them to fill an entire room of their house with loose, common circulating coins.

Yep... that's me.

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 Posted 06/16/2008  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When I was back in high school, I had to keep it a top secret from my friends that I was a numismatist.


I was kinda the same in high school, but I did stop collecting around sophomore year.


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When I did reveal it to a couple of closer friends, they acted as though I had just admitted to some sort of crime or other atrocity.


I've told a few people and they've reacted positively. I still tend to keep it a secret because I don't want them to start telling others and before you know it my collection is gone. So I mainly keep quite because of that.


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Many teenagers would think that a coin collector is some sort of obsessive person with serious emotional problems, which drives them to fill an entire room of their house with loose, common circulating coins.


It's like you know me!


I think that major reason is that lack of money aspect. While you could collect coins from circulation, they were never too exciting for me and I would always go towards to older stuff (which was almost always expensive).

I think most people aren't exposed to coin collecting until they're older and that's probably part of it.
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 Posted 06/16/2008  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zohar444 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Archraz - I was one of these secretive kids and was mentored by my father about collecting in general and coins in particular. I will aim to do the same with my kids (when they come along). This was agreed in advance by my wife who dislikes this hobby :(
Thanks for your comment.
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 Posted 06/16/2008  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This was agreed in advance by my wife who dislikes this hobby :(


Important things to talk about before having kids: "They HAVE to be coin collectors! Or I'm walking."
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 Posted 06/16/2008  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Archraz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well ultimately it is true that most collectors are people who are in their 30s and older. And whenever a person younger than that walks into a coin store for the first time, the dealer usually presumes that they are a naive "noob" or that they are some sort of drug addict there to pawn off the coins that they stole from their dad. Honestly when I was younger dealers would open their case and hand coins to people in their 40s and then would flatly tell me that I couldn't see any of their coins and to go away.
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 Posted 06/17/2008  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Now I'm gonna wait here patiently til a mod posts some forum stats

You don't need to be a mod to get the forum stats... just click on "My CCF", then "CCF members". When the list comes up, click on "Member since", then count 'em up. I've found it easiest to copy the lists and paste them into excel, and let the spreadsheet count for you.

My count, for new members joining the forum:

So far for June 2008: 106
May 2008: 236
April 2008: 211
March 2008: 242
February 2008: 261
January 2008: 305

Now, this doesn't take into account spammers, scammers, and folks who aren't at all interested in coins but just want to ask questions about a coin they've got. But it's worth mentioning that these numbers are twice what they were last year.

I think it indicates a growing interest in numismatics among the worldwide Internet population.

As for the hobby offline: the two coin clubs I'm involved with haven't seen too many "young people" in recent decades - I can't recall the last time we had a "junior member" - but the numbers of kids attending at this year's annual coin (and stamp) show here seemed to me to be higher than at previous years... this in spite of rather large increases in entry ticket prices, etc. Those kids wouldn't be there unless they (or their parents) were keen.
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So far for June 2008: 106
May 2008: 236
April 2008: 211
March 2008: 242
February 2008: 261
January 2008: 305


We must bribe them with cookies!
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 Posted 06/17/2008  04:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SpringCypress to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This site is great.

I don't think you can tell anything about the popularity of the hobby based on new members.

You hit on one reason; false signups. But there are a myriad of other reasons why legitimate signups occoured other than the hobby expanding.

The sites PageRank may have increased. The site may be better indexed by the search engines now than it was a year ago. Other similar sites may have shut down, been abandoned, changed owners, layout, whatever, with the end effect of more people showing up here. Old members lose interest in the hobby but aren't removed from the memberlist. Duplicate logins. etc...

That said the increase in memberships is an indicator that the hobby MAY be experiencing an increase in interest.
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The site may be better indexed by the search engines now than it was a year ago.

Actually, CCF was number one in the Google search for "coin forum" a year ago. Now, we're number four.
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 Posted 06/17/2008  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know I found it almost completely by accident....I'd never "joined a forum"...nor was I seeking to......just browsing through some topics ....and there it was !......it was like seeing Pamela Anderson in church......(?)

Worldwide.......hard to say. But in this country I'd say it's going really strong with young people.......you know, they're seeing these "new quarters" and these gold colored " Presidential dollars", in their pocket change. And whether they're history buffs or not.......I think these "new coins" are bringing in many to the hobby.
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I can count on one hand, with fingers to spare, the number of friends I had in high-school that knew I collected coins. But collecting coins has always been my escape, so I never had the compulsion to share it with anyone.

In thirty years, I have been hot, warm, and cool (but never cold) about my collecting. I will say that when I hit thirty, I got a little more interested in the pricey stuff!

I have never had a problem with coin dealers because of age, but almost all of them took a while to warm up to me as a serious customer. I think that is the nature of the game, since a new customer's true intentions are never known.



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 Posted 06/17/2008  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At every place I've ever worked or places I've visited due to work, I've never met another coin collector. At one time I worked in an Engineering organization of well over 5,000. I was on the companies newspaper so got to get around the place frequently. Never met another coin collector there. I've taught at junior colleges and never met a coin collector there either. No one in my neighborhood collects coins that I know of. No friends or relatives collect coins. I go to about 2 to 4 coin shows a month and have always noted that possibly 90% appear to be retired or just look that way. At coin shows anyone there under 30 yesars old must have their computer games broken.
I suspect that with our population now at well over 300,000,000 in the USA that there are many new coin collectors due to the State Quarters and the Presidential dollars. Sorry to say but soon the Mint will overdue these types of come ons and the hobby will fade much as with stamps.
This hobby of coin collecting is at it's peak now as so many other hobbies have been. Coin collecting has been around for possibly thousands of years but only now is it in full swing. Just rememberthe Beanie Babies, Hot Wheel Cars, Baseball/football cards, etc. Hopefully, the same will not happen with coins.
Today it is just not the thing for younger people with all the computer games, web sites, DVD's, CD's and on and on with modernasation. No younger people want to sit around staring at a little round, not always, piece of metal.
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 Posted 06/17/2008  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eaglefoot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I certainly don't disagree with anything said......but I would remind everyone that the Mint is "focused" on bringing new people into coin collecting......more than EVER before.....that won't end soon.
The new changes that were seeing and all of the "marketing" and "interesting packaging", etc. etc. etc........They're going to find more future collectors than they've ever even tried before, I think.
Moreover......they've admitted their excitement in trying to do this and are going full throttle!....
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