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Valued Member
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Of what, I'm not sure. What do you guys think?   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Possible coin flattening from circulation, but not all areas are altered the same. So the motto may have been a struck through issue.
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Looks like "IN GOD WE" caught the brunt of it. "TRUST" got some too but not as much. Pretty sure it isn't circulation flattening, not sure if it shows well enough but it's actually pretty well defined, or -was- at one point.. It looks tilted south at a pivot point just east of "TRUST"   |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Also there is die wear above the motto devices. Not enough of anything for a premium. Spendable unless you are saving copper coins.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Spend it.  to the CCF! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1967 LMC This is a Really Good Example...of a coin found in circulation that was doing it's part in commerce and should be released back into circulation so it can keep doing it's intended purpose.
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Rest in Peace
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Edited by Crazyb0
04/26/2018 3:11 pm
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Crazy, thanks for the link!
That's what I'm accustomed to seeing, that outward stretching of the devices. This is different, oposit? Doesn't look so much like wear, the underlying devices are well defined. I was thinking MD maybe? Not sure I've seen MD that had what seems like a pivot?
oih82w8, snarky, I like it. But, no. I'm storing my nuts for winter. My neighbors will thank me when we're caught in the middle of the zombie apocalypse and I'm the only one in my hood with copper to make bullets... Or non-stick cookware..
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Pillar of the Community
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Notice how the letters seem to be stretched out toward the edge of the coin. That's Die Deterioration. Unfortunately, it's still worth 1 cent. |
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New member, that effect under the stretching of GOD, that is also Die Deterioration, think of the effects seen on the 1955 Poorman's, where the very edge of the devices ....disappears for lack of better.  Edited by Crazyb0
04/26/2018 4:29 pm
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I'm on bored with all of the explanations and the disappearing device edges... But I think that's why I haven't wrapped my head around this one yet. I see definable edges. I also see the devices being elongated outwardly as you guys have pointed out. You guys disagree that it looks as though 'in god we trust' was somehow stamped twice with a wider spread on the west side? I'm not implying it's anything other than what it is, I'm not saying you guys are wrong, I'm not saying I'm right, I'm saying I get what you're telling me, in general, but how it applies to these particular devices with these edges, I'm missing something in my understanding of Die Deterioration (or lack of,). Normally I just see a general flattening and spread outwards but with a single definable edge at the bottom or, at least, a deteriorated slope... I see two edges at the bottom of these devices. I can admit being wrong without knowing how I'm wrong. Does that make cents?  |
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OK, let's try it this way. Size of device. You've seen enough coins to get a good idea what is a "normal" device, size, shape width/depth etc. Take a look at the lower curve on the O, it is skinnier than a Kardashian model. The unofficial "rule" of doubling is "a REDUCTION in size is ALWAYS a machine damage effect, true hub doubling will ALWAYS INCREASE the size of the device". This means hub doubling becomes thicker in width, sometimes a visible separation occurs aor indications of a line or split corner, all depends on the rotational shift of one hub on top of another ORif two variances in size of device hubs were used. SIZEISthe key. Spend a few DAY/WEEKS on sites like coppercoins.com or varietyvista.com just looking at pictures of what real DDO / DDR/RPMs look like, burn those images in your head, that will help emensely when trying to ID these coins in the wild. This goes for erro coins as well, eat up Wexler's doubleddie .com and error-ref.com for errors, get the correct in mind, then all these oddball mechanical processes will be easily debunked. Edited by Crazyb0
04/26/2018 5:14 pm
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Welcome new new member! I'm new at this as well. My take on the whole doubling issue....all doubled dies that exist have already been found and identified. I focus on looking for those. In my understanding, the die itself is doubled, and it will create doubling until it is replaced. The doubling is usually distinct to the naked eye. All of the other doubling comes from old dies that are worn out. The constant striking, no matter how hard the metal is, will eventually push out, spreading the image. Experienced members, feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Actually new doubled dies are found every day. But become familiar with how known what doubled dies look like. Then look on other yeast to see if the hub doubling happened other years.i was looking at the 2004 DDRs and wondered if other years could have the same doubling. If found the first 2002-D DDR. Strongest on UNUM.   2002D-1DR-001 http://doubleddie.com/839139.html2002-D WDDR-002 Just noticed it is not on VARIETY Vista yet. But look at each listing. See why it is a doubled die. Then use those thoughts on the years surrounding that same year. Don't ever think they have all been found. We just have to find them. Edited by coop
04/26/2018 8:15 pm
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