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Hello everyone, first time on the page, In the picture in included a Dollar coin that looks someone is trying to fool someone into thinking its a transitional Coin! I believe its chrome plated! I have looked at the coin at 30X don't see the typical bubbles I have seen on other Chrome Plated coins. I am still really sure 99.5% its chrome plated. I have never seen a golden dollar without its gold layer on it. Love the feed back, please feel free to make a comment.   "LOVE THE HUNT!"
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I split your post out to its own thread. It might have been missed in the other thread.  |
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Aren't these an alloy? That means there isn't a "gold layer", it's the same color all the way through.
It must be plated with something.
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Chemically or Electrically plated may be your observed difference or just how expensive a get-up produced it? Electroplating differs in the sense of adhesion or cohesion, at what level molecularly is one level connected to the other, how "deep" or strong is the holding force( the bond). Kinda like using superglue or solder on circuit board terminals. Both work, one is just adhered (glue) while the solder is co-hesed putting two different metal together using another metal.(rough analogy)
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04/27/2018 12:51 am
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There are third parties selling gold plated, titanium plated, and other versions. Look at the edge of the Jefferson Dollar. Do you see a line?
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There are third parties selling gold plated, titanium plated, and other versions. Based on how recently the coin was minted, I was also thinking titanium, or maybe platinum plated. I don't think chrome is it.  I think Crazyb0 is right in suggesting it came from a large scale operation (creating worthless souvenirs) that used more sophisticated (expensive) plating techniques. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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I think Crazyb0 is right in suggesting it came from a large scale operation (creating worthless souvenirs) that used more sophisticated (expensive) plating techniques. Read my mind, places like Franklin Mint or contracting firms with national advertising schemes like National Collector's Mint (NCM)or Bradford Mint {and no,they farm it out}! Most likely only a few microns of platinum if it is a matte type look. Unlike the vials of gold flake used in Juanito's garage to "make yer own", which do leave the telltale signs of cheap plating techniques. Edited by Crazyb0
04/27/2018 01:59 am
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Aren't these an alloy? That means there isn't a "gold layer", it's the same color all the way through.
No they're clad, manganese brass clad on a pure copper core. Can't tell from the picture if it's plated or not, and I have known these to stone to a silverish colo. |
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The copper core is somewhat visible on the edge and can be seen if you look close. Not only would plating obscure the core, but I think it might muddy the already iffy edge lettering.
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Yes, many third party companies do this crap. Collectors Alliance is one that sells plated Presidential dollars. |
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Step back a second and realize we're talking about a "quality" plating job - high vs. low.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback, has anyone know of any of these style dollar coins with the gold layer off, Every other coin out there has a few with the clad layer missing. Please share if you have any pic's of any. Jbuck good eye, I noticed that too and on the Obverse around the eyes as well. Sure would have been nice to be a transitional coin or a mule. Back into the mix of dump coins. Thanks again!
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No they're clad, manganese brass clad on a pure copper core. Thanks! So, in that case, if the coin was missing a clad layer, just like previous clad coins, you would see the copper core on one or both sides. There is no instance in which you would see silver-colored metal because none is involved. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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Wouldn't there also be a weight difference if plated or missing a clad layer (s)? John1  |
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If it was plated any weight difference would be so small that it would be unnoticeable due to mint tolerance ranges. If it was missing a clad layer the weight would be significantly off, it would be something around 6 g.
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There is no noticeable weight difference, I believe its plated, it is a really good job, most plated coins I have checked the past had obvious micro bubbles I could see. This one I can't see them with my 30X scope.
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