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Identify The Problem With The Problem Coin Part 4

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I been looking for a nice original problem free Seated dollar in PCGS plastic and this one surprised my on the reason for the details grade. The seller's photos look closer to Mike F's than Cableguy's.
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Well I guess I need to stop saving pictures on my computer with file names that describe the problem. dugh!

But for those of you who didn't examine the picture's file name, this coin has an AT designation by PCGS. It's being offered in an upcoming heritage auction. I agree with cable guy who said the image was dark and appreciated you adding some light to it.

I was baffled by the designation as well but with the added light perhaps it now looks justified?
With these auction companies, you really have to adjust your eye to accurately comprehend what your seeing in their pictures.

On one extreme side you have Heritage with their dark pictures and on the other side you have Great Collections with their overexposed pics with way too much light. In the middle you have Stacks who's pictures are just plain altered and inaccurate in my opinion(don't beat me up too bad baseball) and then who you have David Lawrence who's pics seem ok but they haven't had decent coin for sale at a reasonable price in months so they don't really matter anyways.

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I was going to guess tooled, not AT
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I am uncertain how my "enhanced" picture is true to the real item. If I had to guess, my image overly exaggerates the lighting and color saturation. I just did so because sometimes exaggerating things makes problems really pop out more. This is something I have made a common practice with questionable pictures, and I must say that I have no doubt it saved me from some less than desirable coins.


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this coin has an AT designation by PCGS ... I was baffled by the designation as well but with the added light perhaps it now looks justified


I believe there is a lot more going on with this coin than just AT. If PCGS had more room on the little paper to describe the problems I have a feeling they would write a few more things. There is definitely some fudging in the fields. The tone is odd and uneven (especially seen in my pics) which is why I assumed it was cleaned.
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I just did so because sometimes exaggerating things makes problems really pop out more. This is something I have made a common practice with questionable pictures, and I must say that I have no doubt it saved me from some less than desirable coins.


You should walk me through it some day. I use paint.net to crop, change background, and scale down coin pictures. All other features are a total mystery to me.

What program do you use to do this?

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I actually have SuperDave to thank for this. I posted a thread sometime ago https://goccf.com/t/301529) about a morgan and he adjusted the image and in doing so got me thinking. I asked him what he uses but he never responded so I did a bit of digging. Plenty of software does this kind of stuff but I use good old excel... you'd be amazed what you can do. Go play around.
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@cableguy

Your link is just to a forum, not a specific topic.


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Well I guess I need to stop saving pictures on my computer with file names that describe the problem. dugh!


Sneaky, sneaky!

I use Photoshop Express on my phone to edit images and sometimes using extreme techniques can make a certain detail stand out much more to determine if something is a good buy or not. Of course, if the pics are complete crap to begin with, then it is what it is.
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I enjoy these things and I always try to guess before scrolling down and reading what others said, but part of that for me is right-click, save image as, so I can zoom in and look around, and oops, "20180429_1840-sld-questionable-color-obverse.jpg", spoiler alert! I really tried not to see it, honest.
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@Spruett I'm not sure. I tried and retried posting the link but it keeps changing it and truncating the full link. Here is the link (I removed 1 w in the beginning for it not to truncate):

http://goccf.com/t/301529

Is there a better way to post links?
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When I post the link it works fine:
http://goccf.com/t/301529
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Your image names gave it away

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Oops.
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Is there a better way to post links?
Include http:// in front and CCF will auto-shorted to one that is easier to copy paste from posts.
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The problem with the original link is the left parenthesis is missing and then the right parenthesis gets included when you click on it, so then the doc number can't be found so it defaults to the main forum page. I think with the left paren included it works right. Testing here http://goccf.com/t/301529)

Nope! CCF strips out the left parenthesis when it shortens the link, leaving the right one. Therein lies the problem.
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KB you are brilliant. That makes perfect sense.

Anyway, I feel like this topic was hijacked and turned into an IT discussion (sorry Mike!). Back to the coin!
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I use Photoshop Express on my phone to edit images and sometimes using extreme techniques can make a certain detail stand out much more to determine if something is a good buy or not. Of course, if the pics are complete crap to begin with, then it is what it is.


I do as well. Try using the Lightroom CC app. With Lightroom, you can adjust the exposure without changing color or contrast. If the color looks off and the coin is on a white background (or in a 2x2), you can use the white balance adjustment.
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