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1843 Seated Liberty Dollar For Grading

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HeyMikeP's post should be made sticky, so that it sits at the top of the grading forum as a warning to anyone considering using NGC's 'conservation service'.


I'm not a big fan of NGC, but to be fair they generally do much better work than that. Something went really wrong with how that was handled at first. That doesn't excuse the terrible job they initially did, but that's not really representative of what they have done in the past.

As far as what they used, a number of their formulas are proprietary and the only way you'll get that info is to work in the lab or buy a huge chunk of the company and make them tell you
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As far as what they used, a number of their formulas are proprietary and the only way you'll get that info is to work in the lab or buy a huge chunk of the company and make them tell you


I was curious at first but now I wouldn't even want to know. Whatever they use doesn't work. I suspect they or other coin doctors using similar chemicals have 'conserved' 95% of all surviving Seated dollars.

Thanks for nothing. As far as I'm concerned the 'conservationists' can *** Edited by Staff | The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable. ***.
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I was curious at first but now I wouldn't even want to know. Whatever they use doesn't work.


Overall it does. Why they did such a bad job at first I have no idea.
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The conservation NCS performed on Heymikep's coin was certainly a horrible job. However, I don't believe that that's a valid reason to say that NCS is always bad. I have seen some coins that have been successfully conserved by NCS.

I'm interested to see what Ploopy's coin looks like after the conservation.
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Update on the coin: I drove up to the Summer FUN show and sent it off for grading/conservation along with a monster toned Peace dollar I have. It's currently scheduled for grading/conservation and will post the grade and pics when it comes back to me.
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Good luck !
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Good luck with the conservation. Don't forget to update us with pics after the conservation is finished.
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Looking fwd to this one
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Best of luck! Two questions: Did the PCGS representative offer any insights about what the problem is? And did they explain why the coin is a good candidate for their restoration services?
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The conservation NCS performed on Heymikep's coin was certainly a horrible job. However, I don't believe that that's a valid reason to say that NCS is always bad. I have seen some coins that have been successfully conserved by NCS.


, however, I can see why it would deter some people.
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@MikeF, I sent it to NGC as I joined the ANA. As well, while submitting they didn't talk about the problems we just submitted forms. I kinda regret turning it in so early as Randy Cambell was there giving opinions and I wish I went to him.
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Rims appear to be filed.
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Well I hope it works out, bro. Keep us posted.
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