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3 Dollar Gold For Your Thoughts

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 Posted 05/02/2018  08:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheBurnz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I love these odd denominations. So when I saw this piece up for sale, I was immediately drawn to it. It seems to be in great condition, but it can be seen that this was a jewelry piece at one time.

From my research it is one of the low mintage years and over my past year of collecting, I have never seen this come up for sale before. Is it a rare item.. or will my patience be rewarded if I hold off for a better one to come up for sale..

I would love your feedback.

Thx.





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 Posted 05/02/2018  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nutmeg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the coin.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None up on ebay, but checking the heritage archives they've shown up multiple times. There's been one so far this year, four last year, and four in 2016. So if you keep an eye out through heritage you should be able to find one.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find the design kind of ugly. Love the odd denomination, though.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The $3.00 Princess is on my bucket list. I may have to settle on a One Dollar tho. Congrats, it's nice and if it was in a bezel, it looks fairly unharmed and fine the way it is now.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There's a few for sale on Collector's Corner:

http://www.collectorscorner.com/Pro...?id=32905207
http://www.collectorscorner.com/Pro...?id=30283164
http://www.collectorscorner.com/Pro...?id=19684381

This is a scarce date (900 minted) and you should not buy one without certification.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheBurnz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The starting bid is $800 cad, its estimate is $2000-$4000. I'll keep my eye on it and hope the bezel marks keep it low. Compared to the pictures of the MS ones BH1964 provided, it seems AU condition wise at best.

I don't really like buying from the US, because my last few experiences with customs more then doubled my purchasing prices.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears AU, I agree. Beware of paying up for a damaged coin however scarce it may be.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It also appears lacking in luster. AU seems about right, but given the slight damage, I would probably stay low.
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 Posted 05/02/2018  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Get any date other than 54, 74, & 78, and all the rest are low mintage.

A 56 or 57 won't cost much more than one of those common dates.

If you ever need to sell it, good luck getting their starting number.

Collectors buying $3 sets are finicky and have the money to be that way.
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 Posted 05/03/2018  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are nice, semi-rare and can be quite expensive. I picked up the following specimen in VF35 for around $800 a few years back:

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The $3 Gold Piece (also known as the "Indian Princess") was minted from 1854 to 1889. It was never minted in large quantities, however, and only 535,000 or so pieces were minted for all years combined. 138,618 $3 Gold Pieces were minted in Philadelphia ( no mint mark) for the year 1854, making it one of the larger runs of the entire series (exceeded only by the years 1879 and 1888).
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 Posted 05/03/2018  4:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I own one ex-jewelry gold coin (an 1888 Type III Gold $1, mintage 15501) that I bought for reasons that seem similar to your interest in this coin. It has great eye appeal for an ex-jewelry piece with the evidence barely visible, however...every single time I look at the darn thing, guess where my eyes go first? If not for the sub-$100 price tag, it would be pretty high on my list of "coins I might not buy if I had to do it over again." Might be something you want to consider. Good advice from moxking. Patience can be required in the $3 Princess market. Nice one, barryg.
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Keep in mind that these are among the most widely counterfeited coins in the world. You want to be sure before taking the leap.
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When I see a coin like this I think "pocket coin".

For me a gold pocket coin should never sell for more than double its bullion value, no matter how scarce. That makes this a $400 coin, tops. Think of me as your future buyer. AU is not the major interest with ex-jewelry. There is visible solder, iit's scratched, it's very possibly counterfeit, and almost certainly has been dipped and polished.

The last ex-jewelry piece I bought was an 1858-S half eagle in a slab. A far scarcer coin with fewer problems than this one. 2x melt. Currently in pocket.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Wait, so you wouldn't pay more than twice bullion value for, say, an 1854-D $3 gold in the same condition shown just above?
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Quote:
. For me a gold pocket coin should never sell for more than double its bullion value, no matter how scarce. That makes this a $400 coin, tops. Think of me as your future buyer.


There are A LOT of classic gold issues you will never be a future buyer for if 2x melt is your max. That won't even get you on the same continent as some issues.

That said your point is right about it possibly being fake. $3 gold I would NEVER buy raw from 99.999 percent of places. There's very likely more fake than real ones out there and most people dealers included wouldn't be able to spot them.
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