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1853 Half Dollar DDR?

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 Posted 05/08/2018  7:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinAdvocate to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey guys, picked this up today and it looks to me like a pretty clear example of a DDR. I'm just not sure which DDR it is does anyone have any more information? It's not longacre doubling is it? Let me know what you all think!

Thanks everyone,
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 Posted 05/08/2018  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What I see is very minor and of little consequence, I'm afraid.



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 Posted 05/08/2018  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like a very slight bounce die doubling to me.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CJ18850 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the CCF!

I must agree on the slight. Pushing it for a DDR.
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I think I see slight notching on STATES, possibly a DDR. I don't think this should just be dismissed as too minor. The coin is very worn, a better example may prove this to be a fairly noticeable variety. And besides this is a coin from 1853! I believe it would be worth trying to find out if this is a known variety. Who knows, this could be a new, once in a lifetime, 150+ year old, discovery! A very minor one but still.

A pet peeve of mine is when people on this forum just dismiss people's questions if it seems too insignificant to them, not in their interest, or if it hurts their eyes to zoom in or squint a little. The person who is asking the question is interested in it and wants to learn, not get dismissed because "it doesn't matter". Sorry, venting a little. I'm just a little annoyed that someone found something I find interesting but the first reply is that it is too minor to really matter.

In conclusion, your coin may be a DDR but it is hard to tell because it is so worn. And I believe dismissing something as too minor is annoying.
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 Posted 05/08/2018  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The following book has the most information to date on the 1853 Half Dollar, "The Complete Guide to Liberty Seated half dollars" by Randy Wiley and Bill Bugert. In it they mention that they have no conclusive evidence of doubling of the reverse and state that it could be bounce die doubling. There is more information on the obverse with halo effects, usually around the stars and digits in the date. Bill Bugert has since written 5 newer books,
1. A Register of Liberty Seated half dollar Varieties, Volume I, San Francisco Branch Mint
2. A Register of Liberty Seated half dollar Die Varieties, Volume II, Carson City Branch Mint
3. A Register of Liberty Seated half dollar Die Varieties, Volume III, New Orleans Branch Mint 1840-O to 1853-O NA
4. A Register of Liberty Seated half dollar Die Varieties, Volume IV, New Orleans Branch Mint 1853-O WA to 1861-O
5. A Register of Liberty Seated half dollar Varieties, Volume V, Philadelphia Mint 1839 to 1852
and is working on finishing the Philadelphia Mint 1853 to 1891 (can't wait for those volumes!).
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 Posted 05/09/2018  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinAdvocate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There appears to be a large amount of similarities with my coin and the coin from this post: http://goccf.com/t/302259
The main difference of course is the fact that mine is much more worn and therefor much more difficult to see. None of you see split serifs along the top of the I, and the bottom of the N in UNITED? Or see the repeating along the top of both T's in STATES? Am I really imagining all of this? Also, yes 1853 Seated halves do have DDRs, PCGS recognizes this.

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 Posted 05/10/2018  05:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ItchyN to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the most recent photos, it's looks conclusively like a DDR. Definite notching on some letters.

Whether it's of any special value depends on the demand for DDs in the series. What's most important is if you like it!
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