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Hello This coin is in an NGC slab (BU) MS63/64 (i'd say 63 max.) I just picked it up and was checking it out for Vams etc. Found this clash on the rev. and obv. not sure which side you would call the clash on ? If you flip the rev. pic. upside down in your head:) you can see how it fits perfectly with the obv. area in the fields near the cap. The letter "A" denotes where the space between the leaf tip fits in. (arrow should be a little furthur right) Now, is a clash the same as a strike through ? I've found a few lincoln cents with what I called clashes. I checked VAM world but iguess that a clash / strikethrough is not a die variety. No listing anyway of any top 100 vams on this year coin. The coin also has a pretty long thin die crack that runs from the top of the leaf tip (rev. left side wreath) all the way to the denticle (following the path of wing, S, and then the T of STATES. (crack naturally is only on the field) Was also curious if there may be a slight premium for this error ? Reason being I can return the coin if I wish for a full refund or keep it if the value, because of the error, makes it worthwhile. Worthwhile meaning a minimum of 5 to 10 dollars premium above the actual coins value. I realize that a coin is only worth what someone wants to really pay for it but maybe just a ball park figure if anyone knows. Thank's. http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008...1885orev.jpghttp://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008...1885oobv.jpg |
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Although interesting (I've always found clashes fascinating, myself), I doubt it would add anything to the coin's value. Since you seem to know your way around VAM's and VAMworld, look up the common locations for transferred letters in a clashed coin, and see if yours has any of them. That would raise the interest of a subset of Morgan collectors, especially since there isn't a transferred-letter clash known for the date. Remember, although all Morgans are VAM's, not all of them have been identified yet.  |
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Thanks Dave. Your quote is correct. All morgans are vams. I forgot that :) I'll give it a good look over on the lettered devices. The listings I saw at VAM world did not show any clashes so they must be in the books. Is the term clash the same then as strikethrough or should I say struck through ? |
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Indian1, clash and strike through are completely different. A strike through happens when a foreign object impacts with the planchet as the coin is being struck and imprints on the coin. A clash happens when the two dies come together without a planchet inbetween. This leaves some of the obverse dies design on the reverse die and vice versa.
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Clashing per se isn't usually enough to earn VAM designation, and it's pretty common on Morgans. Recently interest in transferred-letter clashes (those strong enough for lettering to be visible in the clash) has increased to the point where they're becoming in-demand whether granted their own VAM designation or not. |
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I see. I have seen the terms used often in references to one another.
Now I have the facts. Found nothing in the lettering. Maybe next time.
Thank's all for your input. Guess I will send it back. I told em I wanted an 86 thru 97-0 anyway. If they send me one back for the same price that will be nice :) You never know ?
Gotta try !
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Indian1, Here is a clash diagram that helps with finding clashes.  Edited by NGiles
06/21/2008 10:12 am
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Thank's. That graph realy lines things up pretty quick.
Some of the clashes on morgans are so tiny it is hard pick the
spot on the other side. This will help. Clashes that jump right off the coin just with the naked eye are much easier to line up.
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Posted 06/19/2008 6:25 pm
