Possible 1983-P (Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC ) WDDR-003 Or MD

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Jim0190 New Member United States 29 Posts	Posted 05/09/2018 11:33 pm * Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! * Found this LMC during CRH tonight and need some help to determine if it is a DDR or MD. The overall picture is not the best . Thank you. Report this Post to the Staff

Waynoah83 Pillar of the Community 586 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 12:21 am I believe it's MD. If it were DD the devices would be bigger and yours looks to have been made smaller which is where I'm drawing my assumption. I could be wrong though for I am just a newb. Hopefully I am. Good luck though! Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 12:34 am Let's go through this, it may help. Here's one of your pix: I've circled angled edge areas and pointed to two "lines" on some devices here. This is MD, two different kinds. MD is the bounce of the die at the time of striking. It may bounce more than once and in different directions. That's what happened here. A shearing bounce shaved the edges off of a standard size letter while a "high bounce" just tapped the top of the device with the edge of the die face. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 06:44 am Take a look again at Wexler's site, the doubling on the WDDR is on the right side of the devices: Quote: 1983 1¢ WDDR-003 "Best Of" Variety Description: A strong counterclockwise spread from a pivot at 3 o'clock shows on the letters of UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE CENT, E PLURIBUS UNUM, the dots, and the lower left Memorial. Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0190 New Member United States 29 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 08:32 am Mr. Coop, thank you for the clarifications. I noticed the picture I took last night has a lot of shadow at possible DD area (UNITED, ONE and CENT); light was tuned down to minimum the reflection. I will take some close-up pics at suspicious area with better lighting tonight. Thank you. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 08:36 am When taking images, try to include the same areas as the site uses. Then you can make side by sides to compare them with. Your images and his. Make sure to pit his name on his images if you post them. Copyright issues. Edited by coop 05/10/2018 4:07 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0190 New Member United States 29 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 08:38 am Thank you, Waynoah83. I noticed the pics I took last night maybe misleading (hopefully)! I will take some closeup pics for 2nd shot tonight. Report this Post to the Staff
NewMember Valued Member United States 274 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 4:03 pm OMG Twinsies! This is gonna be great! Birthdays together, graduation! We can even dress them alike just to embarrass them! Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0190 New Member United States 29 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 10:11 pm New pics added Report this Post to the Staff
Willburton Pillar of the Community United States 2558 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 10:13 pm It looks like a DDR to me Report this Post to the Staff
NewMember Valued Member United States 274 Posts	Posted 05/10/2018 10:52 pm Looks like your N in "united" is wonky like mine.. That's the technical term, right? Report this Post to the Staff
Jim0190 New Member United States 29 Posts	Posted 05/11/2018 07:05 am Hi NewMember, I am not sure what's the technical term myself. It just stands out under the microscope. I chekced the1983P LMC DDR-2 example in varietyvista.com and found a lot of match! This coin is a little beat up so probably not worth for slabbing. Thank you for checking and feedback! Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/11/2018 3:52 pm Jim too bad your coin looks messed up a bit. But hang onto it for now. The die state is very early. On New Members coin I could find matching die scratches for Wexlers' WDDR-003. I wish I had better images of your coin. Every place I want to look at the devices for hub doubling, it is dinged. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74279 Posts	Posted 05/11/2018 11:15 pm Hey Jim, that's still a very nice and incredible find, even if it's not in the best of shape. Very nice Doubled Die Reverse! That's a keeper! Make sure to hold on to this, put it in a 2x2, and label it. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
luvmyCAM Pillar of the Community United States 1479 Posts	Posted 05/12/2018 6:32 pm Its raining F'S-802's out there woohoo congratulations on a scarce find. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 05/12/2018 9:04 pm Guess what, there will probably be a lot more found since we mentioned the markers to look for. I found an earlier die state reverse. See if these help with your coin Jim? Edited by coop 05/12/2018 10:09 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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Possible 1983-P (Lmc) WDDR-003 Or MD