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Blank Planchet? Fiji?

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This has been sitting in my misc coin box for probably 30 years or more. I'm almost positive I picked it up in change somewhere along the way. I've always vacillated between thinking it's a blank planchet and thinking it's some kind of electrical punch-out. But I've never seen a copper punch-out. It seems to have the rounded "proto-rim" as described here http://goccf.com/t/315970&SearchTer...ank,planchet but only on one side. The other side has more of a tiny sharp rim. The edge seems to be half smooth and half abraded. It is almost exactly the diameter and thickness of a 1982 Fiji one cent (17.5mm, 1.15mm, within a small fraction of a mm). I was in Fiji in 1985 but I can't for the life of me remember whether I got it in change there or someplace else. I know Canada minted coins for Fiji and it could have ended up in US circulation as well, although as you see it is definitely smaller than a US or Canadian cent. I do not have a scale to weigh it. Just hoping to put this mystery to bed once and for all. Thanks in advance!
Blank-Planchet?-Fiji?
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Blank-Planchet?-Fiji?
Blank-Planchet?-Fiji?
Blank-Planchet?-Fiji?
Half of the rim smooth, half abraded
Blank-Planchet?-Fiji?
Fiji and "blank" in the middle, US and Canada cents outside
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I am not sure that is a planchet. One side with curved edge, and other side a sharp 90 degrees, it looks a bit like an electrical box knock-out. But its not the correct metal for that.
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Due to the cross shear lines, I am thinking 'blank', rather than 'planchet'.
Although it matches Fiji for diameter it does not necessarily follow that the 'blank' or whatever it is , was intended for Fiji.
The British Royal Mint at some time or other, has executed orders for most British Commonwealth Countries.


Quite apart from the above discussion, The Royal Mint, due to the nature of their business in striking coins on behalf of so many countries, is the most the notorious for producing wrong planchet error coins.
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Update - it is very strongly attracted to a magnet. Sorry, I should have tested that along with taking the pictures. None of the other coins pictured, including Fiji, are attracted to a magnet (probably obvious but just to be clear). It does "seem" like a knock out, but there is no tab or anything damage-wise indicating this, the rim is smooth all the way around. As you might see in the bottom two pictures, the smooth half of the rim edge is almost like a mushroom cap, although the difference between "stem" and "cap" is probably on the tenth of a millimeter scale or less. The sound on a hard surface is dull like a modern US cent, and lacks the distinct copper "ring" of the Fiji coin. It sure looks like copper. The mystery is probably why I've kept it so long. Maybe they were just passing off these blanks to tourists in Fiji when I was there - $1.00 bought you a big meal in 1985 in the locals places.
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There are countries which produced copper-plated steel coins (usually cents). That may account for the magnetism. I can't think of a non-coin area that it fits into.
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It is an electrical knockout from a commercial industrial size fuze/wiring panel. This was for a 000 heavy gauge high voltage grounding buss bar, circa 1970's or earlier. Steel displaces heat faster than copper, HV could melt plain copper terminals. 50Kv plus, not yer wall outlet. This will turn you to ash in 40 seconds if you were that grounding buss bar. Remember Billy, lick yer fingers first, they'll stick better!
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That's a possibility, however the "grounding bus bar" I'm finding are much thicker, on the order of a quarter inch.
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propably result of some kind of this (not a planchet):
http://nl.sievingmesh.com/productim...4645063.html
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Yes, Petrus, it could be that. Searching "copper perforated mesh" yields many products where the punch outs would probably match. I don't know how you'd distinguish them from a coin blank, but I suppose it doesn't really matter that much. The material does seem kind of cheap, but so does a modern US cent. It's the "proto rim" on one side that throws me off I guess. Putting slugs into coin slots was pretty popular back then and I guess I just ended up with one.
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