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Is A CAC Sticker A Negative For A Lowball?

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Well the CAC sticker sure is not. It guarantees it is authentic. The negative is if it will add too much cost to the item. PCGS values this coin at $ 250.00
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The green bean certifies it's a solid example of the grade, if I'm not mistaken.
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Nemlas - A CAC sticker certifies that a coin is exceptional for its assigned grade. Not authenticity.
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Thank you. I always thought it guaranteed the coin. I have a 1955 double die MS63RB I bought because it had the CAC. You gentlemen teach me something everyday here.
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Y'all are missing the point. Its a lowball. The worse it grades the better it is for this segment of the collecting community. Does CAC help here or hurt? If it were a gold CAC, it might indicate a solid AG-03. These guys want it more like P-01.
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You have a 1955 LWC double die obverse, MS-63 CAC?



I prefer lowballs without CAC. If a lowball CAC's, it means it might grade one grade higher. If it does, it might not be a lowball anymore.
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Great idea for a business. Offer GACK stickers for lowball collectors, signifying that the coin is below average for the grade.
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Would any of us have believed this discussion could ever happen 20 years ago?
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Not a great pic but I will learn. I am in the process of modifying my digital scope.
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Great idea for a business. Offer GACK stickers for lowball collectors, signifying that the coin is below average for the grade.


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A green bean would just mean the coin is properly graded as I imagine a Gold one would mean the coin grades better than what the TPG graded it. I can' imagine a Gold sticker would mean a low ball coin grades even lower than what is on the slab.
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It's a great question, and first time I saw one (as a lowball collector), I thought it just meant PQ for the grade -not technical number grade like 'normal' coins. Because they don't automatically know it's for a lowball collection, going for the lowest grade; but they might, and so you have to think like we do - the opposite - and that they think it may grade down, for a Green or Gold bean.
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Theoretically you would want the coin to fail so it would be at the low end of the grade.

Personally I think they're aware of the low ball market and with the extreme low grades may adjust to just stickering things they think are deserving of the low grade just saying its a nice coin basically.



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Nemlas - A CAC sticker certifies that a coin is exceptional for its assigned grade. Not authenticity.


CAC absolutely assures authenticity as well and would buy back a mistake in that area in a second.
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Theoretically you would want the coin to fail so it would be at the low end of the grade.
Theoretically, yes, but nobody would know except you and CAC. They do not divulge whether a coin was submitted and failed. Which raises the question - why would anybody CAC a PR02 coin? I can think of a couple reasons, but neither makes sense to me.
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Which raises the question - why would anybody CAC a PR02 coin? I can think of a couple reasons, but neither makes sense to me.


Probably got sent in as a lot, or free CAC evaluation was part of the cosigner agreement ect. Key dates that are still somewhat pricey in that grade there is still a value to it.

Of course it could have just been someone hoping for a gold sticker as well
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