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Patina Vs White Face

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Hello everyone! I'm new to collecting. I've bought a handful of coins so far and find myself drawn to darker coins that amplify the details on the coin face, as opposed to cleaner looking white face coins. Is one considered more desirable than the other among collectors or is this just personal preference?

Edit: It's mostly silver dollars and halves I've been collecting if that makes a difference.
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Being an old collector (70+ yo) I much prefer Blast white vs. rainbow toned coins.
In the lower grades I prefer naturally toned copper in brown and silver in gray.
Only exception: Jefferson nickels with pastel toning get my attention.
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With machine pressed silver coins, (all countries),
I prefer blast white in MS+ grades.

They are closer to the original state, as they left the coining press. That makes them rarer and more valuable.
(Except for rainbow toned Morgans, for those that prefer them this way.)

PCGS Photograde for MS+ grades, by inuendo, seems to support this

Blast white helps to display mint luster, and there is no hiding for minor scratches behind a patina or toning. Also makes grading easier.

I would think that most collectors of modern proof silver coins graded PF70, would prefer them untoned.
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It's a personal preference. Some of it is grade dependent though. An F coin that's blast white is an issue. For AU coins its preference. Many people do like the circulation cameo style look you're describing on circulated older coins though.

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For coins that have any wear, I just take them as they come.
In these cases toning or patina is part of what the coin is all about. The original intention was
that coins were to be made for circulation.
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I believe it's a personal preference . For me I like Blast White gem silver uncs .
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As we can see, it's personal preference.

I have a lot of medievals, and some of them are literally dark gray to black in the fields, with some wear on the high spots giving a lighter, more silver-like color there. I have no trouble with a 400 to 700 year old coin that looks like that, but I prefer white on the few high grade 20th century silver I have.
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to the Community!

It is certainly a personal preference. I can appreciate both ends of the spectrum.
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to the forum!

I found the responses in this thread informative and thought-provoking.
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and Welcome to the Forum!
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
http://goccf.com/t/303507
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it is good that there is some variety of taste ; this makes many coins still affordable

for 16th century big silver pieces, many collectors value patina and are ready to pay quite a bit more when patina is attractive
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 Posted 05/21/2018  5:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cr0w to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone for you responses!
Based on the input, I'm not going to fret too much over light/dark faces, as long as I like the coin overall. Indeed last night after I first made this post I was looking at my Morgan dollar which is very white, and my Walking Liberty half which is pretty dark toned, and realized I love them both pretty equally.
I'm still learning, but it's nice to have a community to ask these questions to since I haven't gotten anyone that I know irl interested into the hobby with me (...yet lol).
Thanks again!
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Bonus.
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