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Value? 1967 Quarter From Uncirculated Mint Set With Amazing Toning

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I have a friend wanting to sell this coin and I need an idea of what to tell him to expext. I personally do not like toning on coins, but this one is beautiful in hand. Several angles taken to try to show the toning which is obvious in hand.

The rest of the set silver in the set is toned, but not very colorful.

Ideas of value please?

Please specify if you mean Canadian dollars

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Does his set include the medal and in a case?
The case made them tone, sometimes in quite an undesirable way.
This looks like that sort of issue.
If he has the case and medal with all the coins, I would sell them all together. They fetch a bit more that way as a set.
This is what I think I remember from last fall when I was looking at 1967 sets anyway.

I like the obverse there with the light rose color, the other images look natural and not artificial.
If it were me, I'd rather the toning was the same degree on the reverse as the obverse.
I imagine it is quite difficult to photograph the actual "in hand" look of it.
Kind of neat how the bobcat or lynx is raised off of the background coloring.
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Toned coins from the '67 red case sets are the rule rather than the exception.
Some are nicer than others.
Usually sell for $5-$10.
Sometimes you get lucky and can get $20 or more.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I thought that the case with the medal added considerably? There is also a set with a gold medal is there not ehh?
I think I have a set in a brown envelope in sectioned plastic ( is it ? ) pliofilm.
Another in a Capital Plastic holder. Mine did not tone noticably.
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This quarter comes directly from the black case with the other coins.

But I am confused. The two sets are in black cases with different latching mechanisms and a different symbol on the box they are in.

Are these both the same sets? Or is one PL like the red set issued in the same year? I saw a red set on ebay that looks similar to these but the gold is missing and the positioning of the coins is different.

The really toned quarter is in the left set in the pic.


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Ultimately, with these coins, it is the grade and the eye-appeal of the toning that determines the price...

Here is a recent sale (typical PR or SP-67 grade):

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/CANADA-PROO...302714005007

The grade ultimately still pulls in the highest price:

https://coins.ha.com/itm/canada/wor...3042-32683.s

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Colorful rainbow toning is unstable. Unless it goes into an airtight now, the buyer will be disappointed in it in a few years time. Because the rainbow toning will vary into the future, so will the value, if it is based on eye appeal.
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Thanks for all the info. Can someone provide info about why the two cases are different and if these were originally the same set?
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I suspect the cases were supplied by a third party. Demand for the 1967 specimen sets was very high in 1967, as well, "numismatic gold" was high in demand from the US, as the US Gold Reserve Act rules on owning gold were not relaxed until sometime around 1975. A LOT of these sets were shipped overseas and the US. The slight change in packaging was probably just the supplier trying to keep up with demand.
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Thanks again.
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The cardboard box on the right appears to be from the red cased PL set.
If the coat of arms embossed on the top of the black case matches the coat of arms on the cardboard box on the right you have something very interesting.
Otherwise someone has switched the cardboard box.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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the coat of arms is different.... looks like maybe one set was issued through a province...?
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My PL red set has the same cardboard box as the one on the left, with that same design as on the box printed on the red leather. Same latch as on the left too.
I don't have pictures as it's put away, but it looks just like this one.
https://www.coinsunlimited.ca/royal...ion-coin-set
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who knows how many medallions, were switched out, I have the set on the right in the black box, and I am missing the gold coin.. But I would bet the coins were inter- mixed, and switched out at times, there is probably lots of franken-sets out there.
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Oops!
I meant left in my earlier post.
The coat of arms on the black case, the box on the left and the gold coin are the same. It is the official arms of Canada.
The coat of arms on the left box appears on the red case as well as the silver medallion included in that set.It is a derivative of the official arms, used for centennial souvenirs, and somewhat similar to the crest on the red ensign which until a couple of years earlier was this country's flag.

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