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Medieval Or 17th Century Coin Indentification Help Needed

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I think this will be a 2 for 1 as it appears the coat of arms / crest are the same on both coins. Any help with country, date or denomination is greatly appreciated. The fist coin is silver or billon approximately 22mm and 1.4g. The second coin is copper approximately 21mm and 1.0g.


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 Posted 05/27/2018  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked through the Austrian and German States but no match for that coat of arms, similar style of 17th/18th century European. Dutch, Spanish? That lion isfamiliar....hmmmm
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The first coin looks like a 1 stüber piece from the County of Kleve (a German state), which would have been made from 1616 to 1624.

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Great job, @Joseph . Like @Crazy, I could not find a coat of arms with a chevron in the center like that.
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Thank you Joseph7420! I would have never found it without your help. Krause lists it under the German State Cleves, but also states it was known as Kleve or Cleve. The copper coin I believe is a 3 Heller KM20. Thanks again!
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