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I can't remember when I purchased this display case with the different varieties of 1962 1 cent and 5 cent coins, at the time I didn't care what the coins looked like in the case I wanted the case.
As it turned out the coins in the case were alright MS-63's nice red cents and bright 5 cent with no ugly marks or scratches. I purchased it on ebay from Sean Isaacs, Alliance Coins & Banknotes so I new it would be presentable as he always has nice coins.

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That is nice. Looks like even the screws are clear acrylic.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
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Cool case!

What's the difference b/w 'double date' and 're-engraved'?
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I'm not really sure about a correct answer to your question johnnysprawl to me they are both double dated coins the double date one's seem more dramatic than the re engraved dated one
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That is an old holder... there is no "doubled die" for that year. Both denominations had excessive Die Deterioration Doubling...
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@ johnnysprawl

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What's the difference b/w 'double date' and 're-engraved'?

Please read :
http://www.error-ref.com/causedbyre...vingthedate/

From http://numicanada.com/
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Thank you SPP and Dorado, great write up Dorado on the explanation of the difference DD/engraved dates
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Thank you SPP and Dorado, great write up Dorado on the explanation of the difference DD/engraved dates

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Whatever reference that the article is from, I don't agree with ... unless someone has changed the definition of hub-doubling. What the article is actually defining is Die Deterioration Doubling, NOT hub-doubling.... at least the way that I understand things from reading.

If you read Wexler's or Herbert's books on mint errors, there are 8 different "types" or "causes" of hub-doubling, each of which shows up slightly different than the others. There is "design hub", "distended hub", "distorted hub", "modified hub", "offset hub", "pivoted hub", "rortated hub", and "tilted hub" ... each a different type of hub doubling and the 1962 fits none of them, in my opinion.
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To me it looks doubled but I'm going by what it looks like to me I'm not trying to say one way or another what caused it just looks here's the penny double date.


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The re engraved dates:


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@Dorado, that information is erroneous and out of date...

What you are showing has been proven to be Die Deterioration Doubling. You see the same effect on the doubled 979 1-cent coins. If you don't believe me, then there are others who state the same thing.

Ken Potter talks about Die Deterioration Doubling, and specifically mentions 1962: http://www.numismaster.com/ta/numis...ticleId=5528

Patrick Glassford also describes it as Die Deterioration Doubling: http://www.coinscan.com/err/ddd.html

Even John Regitko attributes the 1962 1-cent and 5-cent doubling as Die Deterioration (Canadian Coin News publications).


The Royal Canadian Mint last engraved the dies when dealing with the deteriorated waterlines of the silver dollars (1953). There is no re-engraved dates since the 1920s I believe. papeldog, I recommend this article on doubling if you want to learn more, by Stanton.

http://conecaonline.org/wp-content/...gFlyer-1.pdf
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Thank you SPP for the articles, there was never any disbelief in my mind of your knowledge of Error and variety coins or coins in general SPP.
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Those old holders actually garner a lot of attention sometimes... the Bank of Canada currency museum has a collection of holders like that, that collectors put together over the year.... sort of a lost art now...
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