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 Posted 06/25/2008  05:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Im not understanding this coin.

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 Posted 06/25/2008  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it has had the copper plating removed post mint. If you heat a Zincoln it will often wind up looking like that.
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 Posted 06/25/2008  11:27 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any chance of having it weighed for kicks and giggles?
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 Posted 06/25/2008  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont have a scale to weigh it. What would a scale tell me about the coin? I dont think the coating was melted off because the letters and etc... would of been affected in some way. If the coin was coated the wording and detail wouldnt be so bold. I just dont understand how this happened is all.
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 Posted 06/25/2008  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's possible there is a chemical that dissolves CU but leaves the zinc unharmed.
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 Posted 06/25/2008  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thks for the info that seems more liable to what happened to the coin then.
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 Posted 06/25/2008  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is damaged post mint and the plating was removed.
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 Posted 06/25/2008  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My son found one of these in circulation over a year ago. I took it to an ANA show and had ANACS look at it. They said it looked like one that was acid dipped to remove the plating. They also said they were running into quite a few of this type of counterfeited error. I don't know how accurate this was but I thought I would put it out there.
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 Posted 06/25/2008  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems that it is easier to create errors than to search for them. If you've found them in circulation the chances of them being real would be almost nil. If you found them in OBW rolls, then you know for sure they are real. Tubed Cents, well they have been in at least someone else's grasp. So don't assume they are all originally from the same roll and are mint. I've found vise squashed cents in them as well. I found one and thought I had something and the experts said no. Then I found a second one in a different roll that probably made the first one. So now I know what to like for. I put them aside together in a two holed 2X2 for educational purposes. You never know when you might need an image of one of them. I prefer not to create one myself just to make a point. But after to understand the process of how it was done, then you can alert other to it.
So if you find it in a circulated batch of coins, it usually is NOT a mint error. (Always exceptions to the rule) But if you had made a counterfeit coin and didn't want it anymore. What would you do with it? Spend it!
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I just wanted to know how this was done thats all. I know that the odds of finding a foreign planchet like this is .00000001 percent lol. Thx for all the info.
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 Posted 06/25/2008  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noel biscocho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi 1913-V,

So whats the verdict here, error or damaged coin. ?

I've also that kind in my possession profound details exhibits in the obverse and the reverse. Black in color. Found in bank roll sent to me by mother last year.

Thanks,

noel biscocho
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Damage....especially ones that are blackened.
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 Posted 06/26/2008  02:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Double Mint to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
noel its definitely a damaged cent. I'm still keeping for keepsake even though the value is only 1 cent.
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 Posted 06/26/2008  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I dont think the coating was melted off because the letters and etc... would of been affected in some way.

Heated to around 800 degrees F the zinc core can soften enough to literally dissolve and absorb the copper from the inside out without losing its shape.


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If the coin was coated the wording and detail wouldn't be so bold.

Common misconception. The lettering/details on a coin is measured in .001 to .01 inches. The copper plating on the cent is .0002 inches in thickness, and it is considered to be a decent plating . A flash plating which would be good enough to just provide a different color to the coin can be as little as .000015 inches thick (that's fifteen MILLIONTHS of an inch thick.). Platings such as these are not going to cause any detail loss. Now sure, a very heavy plating could cause a detail loss, but such a layer would be very wastful of materials and evidence of a vary amateurish job. The only time you would want a layer that thick would be if it had to stand up to VERY heavy wear. (I haven't seen the copper platd zinc cents wearing through yet an hey have been in circulation for 25 years now.)
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