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Blank Copper Planchet? Worth Anything?

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Does anyone know if this might be worth something at all?

Are these rare at all?

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I don't think I would call them rare, but maybe not common to find. I found one in a brand new roll of 2016 or 2017's, don't remember. Yours looks to be not in the best of shape, probably a couple of dollars premium, IMO.

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@POC, can you also please post the weight of this piece? I am a little concerned about what might the presence of faint spiral lathe marks and what might be a shear lip on the edge visible in second pic. Could you also post the thickness and diameter, or if you don't have a pair of Vernier calipers handy, a couple pics with this coin stacked on a copper cent? Thx.
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I've attached a few pics for comparison but unfortunately I don't have anything to weigh or measure it with but you can see it fits just inside the lip of the standard penny.
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Been Ground down, not a blank or a planchet(two different items)

This is a planchet. It was cut from a stock copper plate as a "blank", put through the Upsetting Mill to smooth the edges and put a raised area for a rim making it now a "planchet"
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Ok, yes this is good information for us to have. Now I'm about 80% sure that this isn't a striking error, but rather a garage job imitating an unstruck blank minting error. You will need to wait a bit to hear from others who are more knowledgeable about these things to get your confirmation. @OJC, do these new pics change your mind at all?

In the meanwhile, here is a link to the excellent error reference website: http://www.error-ref.com/

Part VI contains descriptions of the two types of unstruck errors. Mike Diamond is a fairly active member of CCF.
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I'm the furthest thing from a pro but I'm struggling to see the difference between mine and that one. Especially when mention the round edges and then lip.

It has a round edge on one side but only a lip on the other.

Are you suggesting this was personally ground down to this state?
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It has a round edge on one side but only a lip on the other.


Right, as I understand things (which definitely could be wrong), this piece should either have no rim or a rim on both sides if it legit was from the mint. That, coupled with it being slightly too small in diameter and thickness are what is pushing me away from this being real.
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From the most recent photo, it looks like it "fits" in the genuine cent. That won't work for a real planchet. Where did you get it, and how many do you have?
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I found it in a big mixed bag of wheats that I recently inherited. I roughly went through and found everything I clearly thought was an error and pulled this out.

It's perfectly smooth to the touch and I find it hard to believe it someone would spend the time to make it that fine but then again what do I know haha
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It's perfectly smooth to the touch and I find it hard to believe it someone would spend the time to make it that fine


You'll be surprised what people do to coins. WHY? Who knows......
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It's a blank, not a planchet, it is not rimmed.
Because it is a blank, it may not even be for a coin, but there is no way of being 100% sure, either way.
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Weight would be a start. A blank and a planchet expand a bit while going struck. So if the weight is correct, then it would be a cent planchet. (2.5 grams zinc) (3.11 grams copper) (2.7 grams steel planchet) Not that is is the steel one though. Just the weights.
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