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Valued Member
United States
414 Posts |
I'm more a world crown collector and from time to time I run into US material in offshore auctions. I generally pass but if something looks interesting, I'm not one to shy away. I just learned that I won this seated half for 200GBP. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. I don't have this in hand yet but when bidding (my max bid was 220GBP) I saw a coin with very strong detail (better reverse) that was probably cleaned a but not offensively so. Looks like some luster is still present.  Here is a different presentation  Thank you all in advance!
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Rest in Peace
United States
17900 Posts |
Technical Grade 53. Eye Appeal 5/10.
A very respectable price. I'm not seeing anything indicative of cleaning.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
8715 Posts |
A nice coin.  I don't see evidence for a cleaning. If it was cleaned, it must have been lightly cleaned many years ago. A nice example for a type set or an album.!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5825 Posts |
The only downer I see are the black spots. Otherwise a nice coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4337 Posts |
AU55 carbon spotting like this is indicative of having been cleaned/dipped surfaces look dull enough that I suspect it was dipped
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
AU-50 sharpness, but otherwise agree completely. 
Edited by Coinfrog 06/14/2018 5:29 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
414 Posts |
Thank you all for the feedback.
@Dsfreeworld thank you for teaching me something new. I never realized that the black spots are due to carbon spotting. I do agree with you and think that the coin was dipped. I'll know better once the coin is in hand. However, I am not sure the surfaces are dull. Based on the images, I see ample evidence of luster. I guess I have a bit of an upper hand because I am able to see very high resolution images of this coin and can zoom quite extensively to get a better look at the details.
As for grade, I had it in the AU55 range, assuming of course it straight grades.
I'll know better when the coin is in hand.
In terms of pricing, I believe I paid a details money for it (do correct me if I'm wrong) so if it grades straight, it would be icing on the cake.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Let us know when you get it if still looks that good.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4337 Posts |
no worries mate Like the motto says, education is the key... post the in-hand pics when you've got it nice pickup 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3098 Posts |
An attractive coin from the New Orleans mint that's also from an important year in American history.
Paul Bulgerin
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Valued Member
 United States
414 Posts |
Hello everyone. Once again, thank you for your feedback. The coin finally arrived today and I must say it has exceeded my expectations in every way. Looks like I was accurate in my original assessment, the surfaces are anything but dull. The coin is gently toned, very lustrous (as is evident in my pics below) and quite pleasant to look at. The details are crisp; there isn't much visible evidence of circulation. The fields are clean and without hairlines or distracting dinks. If this coin was dipped it wasn't done foolishly as to damage the coin. The carbon spots are there but not as bothersome as in my original images. I would conservatively grade this coin at AU55 or higher.  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2125 Posts |
Looks AU-55 to me. Weak strike.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I never realized that the black spots are due to carbon spotting. The black spots have nothing to do with carbon. Silver coins do not get spots from carbon. Carbon spot is a term that is used to describe black spots but it is misleading. The spots on your coin were caused by sulfur. A more accurate term would be sulfur spots.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
At first glance I questioned the authenticity but I believe it is genuine. Still the obverse rim gives me pause as do a few surface characteristics.
The price seems to half of the retail value of an AU53, which is roughly what it would grade. With very high quality counterfeits struck in 90% silver coming out of Chinese "mints" I would consider professional in-hand verification of this piece.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
824 Posts |
It looks like a WB-101, WB-8 variety from the die cracks and date and mm placement. It is a Louisiana issue and has a rarity of R2.. I would grade it AU53.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU53 Like you said probably a very old, lightly dipped coin and retoning + luster is nice. Shame re: the spotting. May be my imagination, but I'm seeing some wipe marks in the right obverse field
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