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1820 Token Looking For Confirmation

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 Posted 06/21/2018  09:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I've never had one of these so I got this one recently and I'm not sure what I bought, I think it's a LC-60E2 or LC-60E3.
Weight is 5 grams, die axis is coinage, edge is plain and diameter is 27.5.
My older token book say's these imitation tokens are inferior to the real ones.
Can anyone tell me a grade?
How do you definitively determine if it's brass or copper?

Appreciate any help,
Cheers, Bill

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 Posted 06/21/2018  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very well struck for an imitation.
XF40-45, possible AU if not for the touch of corrosion of the obverse.
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 Posted 06/21/2018  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Color looks copper. I think it would slide in at a 40 without details. That tiny bit of pitting might make it through.
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 Posted 06/22/2018  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I appreciate and respect both replies.
moxking I have to agree it looks the same to me as many of my Victorian cents as far as Color.
It may just be wishful thinking but that's why I asked for a grade also as I believe copper is softer then brass and would therefore result in a better strike.
My token book only refers to the copper examples as very rare giving no values.
Thanks guys.

Cheers, Bill
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 Posted 06/22/2018  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All of those that I have seen are the same copper/bronze color. I just don't think that there was enough pressure in the preses that were making these.
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 Posted 06/23/2018  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hounddog Bill to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So can I take it that I'm correct with LC-60 either E2 or E3?
I don't want to mark the holder incorrectly. TIA

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 Posted 06/25/2018  08:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was under the impression that these were called 'bust & harp' this one is 9 string I have a couple of these, one being 9 string and the other 10 string, yours is way better than mine.
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Charlton's LC-60 E2 / Courteau variety 15 / Rarity factor of 1. Courteau varieties 14, 15, 16, and 17 are combined under Charlton's umbrella of LC-60E2. Now work on getting the other three.

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