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Just acquired this Maximinus II for my Eastern split set I'm slowly working on at the moment...Paul
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Caius Valerius Galerius Maximinus, more commonly known as Maximinus Daia or Daza, was from Illyricum and was of peasant origin. He was born 20 November perhaps in the year 270. Daia was the son of Galerius' sister and had served in the army as a scutarius, Protector, and tribunus. He had been adopted by Galerius ; his name had been Daia even before that time. He had a wife and daughter, whose names are unknown, while his son's name was Maximus. When Diocletian and Maximianus Herculius resigned their posts of emperor on 1 May 305, they were succeeded by Constantius I Chlorus and Galerius as Augusti; their new Caesars were Severus and Maximinus Daia respectively. Constantius and Severus ruled in the West, whereas Galerius and Daia served in the East. Specifically, Daia's realm included the Middle East and the southern part of Asia Minor.

Immediately after his appointment to the rank of Caesar, he went east and spent his first several years at Caesarea in Palestine. Events of the last quarter of 306 had a profound effect on the Emperor Galerius and his Caesar Daia. When Constantius I Chlorus died in July 306, the eastern emperor was forced by the course of events to accept Constantius' son Constantine as Caesar in the West; on 28 October of the same year, Maxentius , with the apparent backing of his father Maximianus Herculius, was acclaimed princeps. Both the attempt to dislodge Maxentius by Severus, who had been appointed Augustus of the West by Galerius after the death of Constantius in late 306 or early 307, and the subsequent campaign of Galerius himself in the summer of 307 failed. Because of the escalating nature of this chain of events, a Conference was called at Carnuntum in October and November 308; Licinius was appointed Augustus in Severus's place and Daia and Constantine were denoted filii Augustorum. Daia, however, unsatisfied with this sop tossed to him by Galerius, started calling himself Augustus in the spring of 310 when he seems to have campaigned against the Persians. Although, as Caesar, he proved to be a trusted servant of Galerius until the latter died in 311, he subsequently seized the late emperor's domains. During the early summer of that year, he met with Licinius at the Bosporus; they concluded a treaty and divided Galerius' realm between them. Several yea rs later, after the death of Daia, Licinius obtained control of his domain. Like his mentor the late emperor, Daia had engaged in persecution of the Christians in his realm.

In the autumn of 312, while Constantine was engaged against Maxentius, Daia appears to have been campaigning against the Armenians. In any case, he was back in Syria by February 313 when he seems to have learned about the marital alliance which had been forged by Constantine and Licinius. Disturbed by this course of events and the death of Maxentius, who had been his ally, Daia left Syria and reached Bythinia, although the harsh weather had seriously weakened his army. In April 313, he crossed the Bosporus and went to Byzantium, garrisoned by Licinius' troops; when the city refused to surrender, he took it after an eleven day siege. He moved to Heraclea, which he captured after a short siege; he then moved his forces to the first posting station. With only a small contingent of men, Licinius arrived at Adrianople while Daia was besieging Heraclea. On 30 April 313 the two armies clashed on the Campus Ergenus; in the ensuing battle Daia's forces were routed. Divesting himself of the purple and dressing like a slave, Daia fled to Nicomdeia. Subsequently, Daia attempted to stop the advance of Licinius at the Cilician Gates by establishing fortifications there; Licinius' army succeeded in breaking through, and Daia fled to Tarsus where he was hard pressed on land and sea. Daia died, probably in July or August 313, and was buried near Tarsus. Subsequently, the victorious emperor put Daia's wife and children to death.
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Hi Palouche.

Love the coin, love the write up, love the presentation!

May I ask you what photo editing software you use?
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Excellent coin and write-up Paul. Congrats.
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What a great looking coin. I particularly like the rendition of the cornucopia. Congrats, Paul.
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Very nice. I have a linking for these Alexandrian of Max II. I semm to have about a dozen at the moment.

Here is a slightly earlier CAESARIS

Obv:- GAL VAL MAXIMINVS NOB CAES, Laureate head right
Rev:- GENIO CAESARIS, Genius standing left, modius on head, naked but for chlamys at waist, left hand holding cornucopiae and right hand holding patera
Minted in Alexandria (K | B / P // ALE). Late A.D. 308 - A.D. 310
Reference(s) - RIC VI Alexandria 99a (Common)

Weight 6.44g. 23.84mm. 180 degrees

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One that matches yours.

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A slightly more unusual BONO

Obv:- IMP C GALER VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head right
Rev:- BONO GENIO PII IMPERATORIS, Genius, naked but for chlamys fastened at his right shoulder and hanging from his left shoulder, standing facing, head left, wearing modius, holding patera in right hand and ornate cornucopia in left arm behind
Minted in Alexandria (Crescent / K | Gamma / X // ALE).
Reference(s) - RIC VI Alexandria 144b (Rated Common)

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And one of my several Serapis head coins.

Obv:- IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMINVS P F AVG, Laureate head right
Rev:- GENIO AVGVSTI, Genius, naked but for chlamys fastened at his right shoulder and hanging from his left shoulder, standing facing, head left, wearing modius, holding head of Serapis, which faces him, in right hand and ornate cornucopia in left arm behind
Minted in Alexandria (* / N / Branch | B / ALE). A.D. 312-313
Reference:- RIC VI Alexandria 160b

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A great thread with my morning

Great coins, photos, and history
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Beautiful set, Martin. The Serapis head coin is outstanding - such incredible detail.
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Great coins in this thread. Looks like a pretty strong dude based on his profile.
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Excellent coin with a very expressive portrait! And nice write up too!

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Very nice coin
I always keep an eye out for these types of folles
Sometimes it is very surprising how often they can be overlooked in auctions with high priced offerings on either side of them.

One curious thing
I often noted after my children were born that my wife's brother suddenly became "Daia" (spelled dajė) in Albanian.
This is their casual term for uncle
My wife of course is mama and I assumed the mantle of ...... Papa !
The Albanians are quite adamant that they are the legitimate heirs of the Illyrians and everyone else in the region is not !
Not only that but the largest lake in Albania is called ..... Scutari
Like the Germans (Deutsch) the Albanians have a name they alone use to refer to themselves by
Shqiptar
They are quite adamant that it literally means "sons of the eagle"

I can't help wondering since "myths" almost always have some factual origin in history, if these people who first appear in Byzantine texts around the year 1000 really are descended from a Roman "Illyrian" legion that withdrew to the mountainous parts when the area went downhill in the late 5th century.

And that name Shqiptar
Could they really be the sons of the eagle ?
Perhaps a corruption of SPQR and the Eagle a sacred golden totem
worshipped by the 'sons' ?
It makes me wonder sometimes .......

BTW
Great coin !


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Thanks guys!

@ Biancasdad...Its nothing special, its called Picasa3 and was on the computer when I bought it, but it does allow you to present the coins nicely, and due to my lack of tecnological knowledge, is very easy to use.

I do think it's important for other members to post coins related to the OP coin as this makes the thead much richer!....Thanks Martin, some super coins there and great photography, something I'm still working on!
I can see the legend break on the reverse of our two coins is slightly different, engraver licence I assume, as I can't find any reference in RIC?


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Sometimes it is very surprising how often they can be overlooked in auctions with high priced offerings on either side of them.

I agree as I picked this one up for I think 20 something euros...

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Thanks Paul.
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At twenty euros I would offer my standard response
"I will take all you got !"

Well played
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