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1857 Seated Quarter For Grading

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Raw coin with not the best pics. It is attributed as Briggs 7-G (Proof Dies)
(R4) Very Scarce Thoughts?


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Technical Grade Proof 65. Eye Appeal 7/10.

I didn't think the 7-G had that obverse die crack. Different progression?
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PR-64, but I'd really like to see sharper pics.
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More pictures:
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If it is a proof then the price is right.
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At the moment my Briggs book is misplaced and I am far from an expert on Seated coinage.

Let's break this down:

US Mint didn't keep track of mintage numbers for proofs prior to 1858. The number of dies required would be a pair or two.

After striking limited numbers of proof coins, the dies could be and sometimes did strike circulation coins.

Just because a coin is struck with dies that had been used earlier to strike proof coins-- DOES NOT make it a proof coin.

I think some saw the words Proof dies and assumed it to be a proof coin automatically.

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Meadow- spot on. It is just the reverse I believe. Thanks for the examples and the information!!

This is the coin in hand. I feared this coin was cleaned at first based on the pictures, but it has lovely cartwheel luster in hand.

Any comments on these new pics appreciated!!

Taken multiple pictures to show luster. Very vibrant cartwheel luster best shown in a video.

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Close ups taken under a direct light source
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ms63 based on updated pics showing more marks. nice luster.
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Agree, something closer to MS-63. Scratch my first grade.
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I agree with MS-63. Disregard my earlier grade.
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I'm kind of curious how this coin eluded being holdered for so long. It's pretty incredible to see really nice, spot free 19th century silver type to begin with.
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