John Kirk Death Of Frederick, Prince Of Wales Medal

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EarlyMilledCoins Valued Member United States 147 Posts	Posted 07/09/2018 8:10 pm 1751, Great Britain. DEATH OF FREDERICK, PRINCE OF WALES. By John Kirk. AE 36mm. Obv: Bust of Frederick, facing left. Rev: Britannia mourning before a monument. MI II 661/367, Eimer 634, Fearon 202.1 Report this Post to the Staff

Dorado Bedrock of the Community Canada 24885 Posts	Posted 07/09/2018 8:23 pm Nice medal ... Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188394 Posts	Posted 07/10/2018 10:19 am Very nice! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3324 Posts	Posted 07/10/2018 11:16 am Interesting item as usual. Question: The birth and death dates as noted on the medal are 1706 and 1750. I had to look this up, but Frederick lived 1707-1751. Am I missing something on the listed dates? Did they add a year somehow that I'm unfamiliar with (a dot / tittle, etc.)? "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188394 Posts	Posted 07/10/2018 2:18 pm It is the difference between Julian to Gregorian calendars. The British empire converted to Gregorian in 1752. This moved New Years from 25 March to 1 January. From Wikipedia... Quote: 1751 in England only lasted from 25 March to 31 December. The dates 1 January to 24 March which would have concluded 1751 under the old calendar became part of 1752 when the beginning of the numbered year was changed from 25 March to 1 January. People born before 25 March on the Julian calendar who retroactively adopted a Gregorian birthday saw themselves born "a year later" than they were under the old calendar. This also depends on the offset days between the two calendars, which 11 days at the time of adoption by the British empire. So in this example, Frederick was born 1 February 1707 under the Gregorian calendar and 21 January 1706 under the Julian calendar. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
Bump111 Pillar of the Community United States 3324 Posts	Posted 07/10/2018 5:29 pm That 'splains it. Thanks, JB. I bet that could cause a monkey wrench or two on the "How far back can we go" threads. "Nummi rari mira sunt, si sumptus ferre potes." - Christophorus filius Scotiae Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188394 Posts	Posted 07/10/2018 5:44 pm Not really. There is more offset with the AH to CE conversions that we allow, so no big deal. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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