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Fake Lodz Ghetto Coins

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 Posted 03/25/2021  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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... seller does not accept returns.


I think if the buyer requests a return based on authenticity, ebay would support the buyer, regardless of what the seller says.
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 Posted 03/26/2021  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@newguy22
Yes.

@tdziemia
I reported many fake coins to ebay. Guess what? None of them was removed. ebay is not able to decide if reported coin is fake or not, because they do not have own experts.
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 Posted 05/03/2021  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gumer, Why don't you write to the PCGS and notify them that they have evaluated the fake?
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@Slerk
I report PCGS every fake coin, but I think they will not buy back those coins from ebay sellers. I would like to warn the rest of you against buying fake coins, that is why I place links here.
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Thanks for providing this service to collectors here.

On my earlier post where I commented on returns, if a collector buys a non-certified coin on ebay, then submits it for certification, if there were a problem with authenticity, I think ebay would support the buyer on a return.
However, as you are pointing out, submitting the coin to PCGS still does not necessarily guarantee authenticity.

I am curious if the Polish auction houses like WCN are safe places to buy authentic Lodz ghetto coins. If I look at WCN, they sell about 100 Lodz ghetto coins each year (interestingly, I didn't see any recent sales of certified ones in their archive. Last sale of a PCGS certified coin was almost 2 years ago).
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 Posted 05/31/2021  06:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm glad I can help.

I cooperate with Antykwariat Numizmatyczny Michal Niemczyk, but I also warn WCN if a fake item appears in the offer, like this one recently: https://wcn.pl/eauctions/210527/det...gow-17041942
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Dear gumer, can you help with these 2 coins?



Fake-Lodz-Ghetto-Coins
Fake-Lodz-Ghetto-Coins



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 Posted 06/20/2021  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Grinya
Both coins are genuine.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/203518467193
Maybe I will send some counterfeits to PCGS? ;)
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@gumer, thank you for your help:)
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 Posted 07/09/2024  01:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gumer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beware!
PCGS CERT VERIFICATION #24483740
https://www.ebay.com/itm/387175345683
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