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Hello group:
I would like to seal some of my banknotes in holders and was wondering what machine the "big" boys use (TPGs), what sleeves and if these are available for purchase. I don't want the notes graded, but just protected. Any info would be appreciated.
KK
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Interesting question and not easily found or identified. I found what seem to be it below but not sure. I am thinking you buy the below and apply a regular food saver vacuum sealers.
Its an idea that sounds interesting and if you go by the rule, "buy the note not the holder" Its a great option for those low value collectible note investments.
Currency Sleeves Wraparound XL Mediumweight per 10
www.safepub.com
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Bedrock of the Community
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A benefit of the food saver is that it evacuates air (and the moisture it contains), but I can see a vaccum mangling/collapsing a thin Mylar bag. Those dedicated sealers are a pretty penny but probably worth it if you're going to do dozens. The ironing videos seem like a lot of work.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What is your concern about leaving a note - even a new one - in a high grade open holder?  Even currency dealers use these for their own collections! |
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I was guessing maybe they live on a houseboat....
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No ST, no houseboat. CF, I was thinking about doing some shows and was concerned about the handling of the open top holders, maybe even some spillage on them by inattentive people. I do remember at a recent show, one dealer (I think it was the NYCICF) had all his notes in sealed holders. Thanks to all who responded. I'll look into what you suggested.
KK
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I use a simple clear 1/8" X 1/2" pre-cut piece of tape in the center of the open side to keep the holder closed. You're not going to get far as a currency dealer if qualified buyers cannot view raw notes in hand.  |
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CF: I do not want loads of people, probably with dirty hands constantly taking notes in and out of holders and bending corners. Just as notes can be studied in sealed TPG holders they could be studied in self sealed holders. I would't want to use anytime of tape on a holder. Maybe you would be OK with people fondling your jewels, but I'm not when they are my jewels. KK |
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United States
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You'll have a tough time selling a raw note of any value to an experienced collector in a sealed holder. Not going to happen. It's up to you to decide who handles it raw, but this is something you'll have to learn. Trust me. |
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People buy coins in 2x2 holders, uncertified by a TPG. Coins are sold daily, multiple time through the auction site we all know and love. Notes are also sold on a daily basis that have not been graded by a TPG. If only numismatic items that have been certified by a TPG are valid for collecting, where would this hobby be. If a person is uncomfortable buying a note because it hasn't been graded by a TPG (who does the grading of the tens of thousands of items? I betcha there are some newbie graders going in and out the revolving doors! Where's the quality?), then that person should learn to use the IBNS grading standards before he gets into note collecting. There have been numerous TPG'd items posted on this forum that have been questionable in their grade. Ultimately it is a person's choice to buy or not. My preference would be to sell to collectors looking to build or improve their collection. The hobby for me is not the investment aspect. If you buy quality, it will grow over time. KK |
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It's good to hear everyones opinions. I tend to agree with Mr.Frog, and although most everything KK mentions about coins is spot on, coins VS currency is like comparing apples and oranges. Probably why CAC doesn't do Paper Money. I have very limited grading experience with coins, but it appears to be all LOOKS. None of those pesky serial numbers, and no embossing or dealing with folds and ragged corners. Every currency dealer at a show currency table is more than happy to let you hold a raw note .... sometimes they prefer to take the note out of the holder, but I've never been told " no, you can't hold it". Edited to add; I don't believe this has anything to do with TPG's. Edited by SteveInTampa
07/20/2018 5:37 pm
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Agreed, coins and currency are different animals. With most coins in most grades, you can see everything you need to see with the coin inside a holder, save perhaps for luster breaks and subtle signs of cleaning in some instances. Not so with currency, especially in higher grades - pressed folds and slight bends, not to mention embossing, can be almost impossible to see through stiff holders. I have hundreds of notes, and have never bought a raw one without examining it in hand first, nor have I ever been told I could not.  |
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OK getting back to the OPs (that be me) original question and refraining from offering opinions on the validity of self-sealing currency in bodybags and how people examine notes, does anyone else have a suggestion as to a machine and holders to use. Anyone work/worked for a TPG? What machine do they use? I guess I could contact the ANA museum and see what they suggest. Thanks to all for answering my original question and a thanks to those whose had options to suggest. Your comments are valuable and I consider them a learning experience. Thanks again. KK |
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