Spanish 1825 2 Real Coin In The China Trade?

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Squire Wilson Pillar of the Community Australia 653 Posts	Posted 07/24/2018 05:02 am Recently I added the below Spanish 1825 2 Real coin to my collection. This coin is of interest for a few reasons and I would value the feedback from Coin Community Family members. Firstly the coin appears to me to be a Spanish 2 Real coin. Note the absence of the two "Pillars of Hercules" from the reverse of the design. The RS mintmark indicates Seville as the origin of the coin. Finally you can see the Chinese chop marks on the coin. How could a Spanish coin like this end up in the Far East? I thought that this principally occurred with "colonial" Spanish silver coins sporting the "Pillars of Hercules" on the reverse. Squire Edited by Squire Wilson 07/24/2018 05:05 am Report this Post to the Staff

gxseries Pillar of the Community Australia 3831 Posts	Posted 07/24/2018 08:03 am Why not? Chopmark practices continued well until early 1900s. Regardless of Japanese, English or Spanish origin, silver is silver. My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries My numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htm Regularly updated at least once a month. Report this Post to the Staff
Squire Wilson Pillar of the Community Australia 653 Posts	Posted 07/24/2018 10:00 pm Thanks gxseries It would appear that the Chinese were not very fussy about the coins that would make up their Sycee Ingots, provided they contained the required grade of silver . Squire Report this Post to the Staff
CanadianNumismatist Valued Member Canada 115 Posts	Posted 07/27/2018 01:13 am In my opinion the coin is most likely genuine, for it to have been chopmarked, as chop marks were made by well known assayers of silver coinage in China, certifying the coin is up to standard for use in trade. And also as you were wondering how Spanish silver got to the Far East, well, before the USD became the global currency, the Spanish Peso de a ocho was the global currency used in worldwide trade. These, and other Spanish coins, were prized for their high silver content, and so many countries based off their own national currencies on the Spanish currencies. Report this Post to the Staff
jgenn Pillar of the Community United States 1156 Posts	Posted 07/27/2018 2:38 pm The presence of an Asian chop should not be used to authenticate the host coin. Unless you are an expert in this area you have no idea when the marks were made. You can bet that there are plenty of modern counterfeits that have been given chops to make them attractive to collectors. The mintmark is S for Seville, the R is for reales and goes with the number 2 on the right side of the shield to show the denomination. Lots of countries traded silver for Chinese goods. It's one of the main reasons that the US and European nations created silver Trade dollars. Some collectors of US Trade dollars prefer those with chops to those without. A Spanish coin could have passed through the Philippines since if was a Spanish colony until 1898. Edited by jgenn 07/27/2018 2:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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