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 Posted 07/27/2018  2:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add julianscorpio to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello,

I'm new to the world of coins, I'm not much of a collector but I was fascinated by this particular one that I bought at an auction house.

I love being a collector of various things but I also love to learn the history of it as well.

Unfortunately, I crashed into a wall and I can't find any information on the symbols of my possible Chinese Spade Coin. I've already gone through Google Images, Translator, Pinterest and other coin catalog websites for references but I feel that my characters are nothing that I recognize. So I came here and wondered if anyone can help me. Thanks!

Have a great weekend everybody!
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 Posted 07/27/2018  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I hate to say it, but I am 99% sure that your coin is fake. There is almost no patina - Early Chinese bronze coins almost always are pretty heavily encrusted in bronze oxides that cannot be removed without harming the coin. The details are also too crisp.

We have two resident experts on these coin types - TypeCoin (haven't seen him in a whike) and AnYangMan.

I love to dabble in the unknown, but there are too many fakes of knife and spade coins out there - even ones so convincing that they are sold at major auction houses! If you can, I would return this ASAP for your money back!

Don't let this discourage you, however! Chinese coins notwithstanding, fakes are the exception, not the rule. There are many experts in many fields here, and we are happy to help!
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Julian,
This is a great picture of a spade coin. I'm sticking my neck out and may get chopped off. Lets see what we can learn from the CCF members.
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THANK YOU EVERYONE! I really appreciate it!

As for Finn235, thanks! I only bought for $5.00 and I'm going to keep it. But as for the condition when I first bought, it was completely covered in the green oxidation / patina. I cleaned it off before I scanned for the image.

Does that make a difference?

Thanks again!
-Julian
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It doesn't look right to me. The edges don't appear to be like old Chinese coins, they appear modern--especially on the lower right. The designs don't seem like what I would expect, especially the triangles on the right. And I can't find anything similar in Hartill.
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As far as the cleaning, removing patina is best left for experts. It's easy to destroy the value of a coin, and clues about the coin are lost as well.
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Agreed never clean a coin unless you are happy to do so, note some people wont touch a clean coin (purchase one even very rare ones). But what is done is done plus patina helps protect and give a way for collector to get an indicator of age/authenticness, however not the best cleaning job as scrubbing removes details (damages coin), if you want to remove dirt some use olive oil or distilled water. (Only recently purchase some clean coins but at least they were junk coins so I was like meh (they used coke cola), they deny they had done anything to the coins but it didnt really matter if they were or weren't. Sorry about side rant.

Note some people get angry at this sort of cleaning as they would say this makes the coin worthless but the coin is yours so you may do with it as you please. (I mean at less you didnt clean a Picassos, ^_^)
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