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Can Somebody Tell Me I\if These Are Errors, Indeed?

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I am a "newby" as a coin collector, so ... any qualified help is really appreciate it.

I just purchased a Mercury dime 1921-D and a Barber dime 1910.

Please look at the pictures, and let me know if these are Errors? and, ... if they are, if you think I should have them graded, or not?

1) Mercury dime 1921-D ... on the Obverse is missing the Horizontal line from the "T" in LIBERTY, alrogether ... What do you think?

2) On the 1910 Barber dime, on the Reverse of the coin, the letter "E" from the word DIME looks like the middle character of the letter"E" fell down ... What do you think?
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The Mercury dime and Barber dime are classic coins, so I moved your post to the appropriate section for the proper attention.
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First welcome to CCF. Second, your first picture is a little dark, but it looks to me like the die used to strike this coin may have had a little grease in it thus causing this letter to not be fully struck. I don't think that this is significant enough to bring a premium. The letter E on your Barber dime looks like it may have taken a hit which has caused the metal to smear slightly. This would not be a mint error at all.
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Thank you for your prompt answer Spence, which I really appreciate.

I have 2 questions (on each coin) and thus, I'll reply in 2 separate messages (one for each coin), since I'll upload both pics (obv + rev) on each:

So, ... as related to the 1921-D Mercury dime Silver Coin:

1) Are you saying that the fact that the Horizontal top part of the letter "T" is completely missing (not just week strike), is not an error at all? or, ... just that it may not be much of an error, to the extent that it is worth increasing the premium on the sale of this coin?

2) If it is still an error (I have attached both, obverse and reverse for a better overall assessment), what kind of error will this be? Since I am aware that mint error coins can be the result of deterioration of the minting equipment, accidents, or malfunctions during the minting process, could this be classified as a Strike Error (or, is it a "Variety" of an error, as the "top part" is completely missing altogether? I have purchased and sold quite a few coins ( Mercury dimes included), but haven't yet seen one like this, where the top part of the letter "T" is completely missing, and the remaining part looks more like a short "I" .

*** On the reverse of the dime, it almost look like it is also an "off-center" strike, as the distance between the rim of the coin and the letters (despite natural aging) seems to be greater than on the bottom side, where there is No Distance and, the lettering is "on the rim" ...

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... As related to the 1910 Barber Silver Coin:

1) Are you saying that the fact that the mid-part of the letter "E" is completely "upside-down" (which does not seem to be occuring after the strike of the coin, is not an error at all? or, ... just that it may not be much of an error, to the extent that it is worth increasing the premium on this coin?

2) If it is still an error (I have attached both, obverse and reverse for a better overall assessment), what kind of error will this be? Since I am aware that mint error coins can be the result of deterioration of the minting equipment, accidents, or malfunctions during the minting process, could this be classified as a Strike Error (or, is it a "Variety" of an error, as the "mid-part" is completely upside-down? I have purchased and sold quite a few Barber silver dimes but haven't seen one like this, yet...

*** If you look carefully (especially if you can Magnify the image), it seems like the bottom size of the "upside-down" mid-part of the letter "E," is almost "infused" (at the time of the strike, maybe), into a surplus of material, at the bottom of the letter "E" in DIME ... which "surplus" of material also seem to be visible (after a carefull look), on the Top Right Side of the letter "E" in DIME ...


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First, the easy one. The Barber is a Die Chip. A small piece broke off the edge of the die device(remember he die is opposite the coin). This is a normal machining problem hence not an attributable "error".

Now, a grease filled strike through is also a product of production. As dies age, they are polished with a diamond paste. Sometimes this becomes wedged in the die devices, clogging the resultant strike. This again is normal and not considered an error. The other thing it COULD BE, is damaged. Note that same area all around the rim, a lot higher wear pattern. This may be a result of either a coin wrapper or a vending machine. I do think it is the latter, not a strike thru.

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The Mercury dime missing top of the T is caused by a Grease Filled Die.

The Barber dime's extra material on the E is caused by a die chip.
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Thank you. I really appreciate your answer(s).
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