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I need a reality check. I'm not a grader. This coin actually looks pretty good to me. Can you tell me where and what type of detailing you see on this coin? I'm in the market for a Classic Head for my 7070. Thanks. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1814-U-S-C....XClass.TRS2Edited by USSID18
08/07/2018 12:24 am
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Theres a bit of surface pitting(indicative of environmental damage), I can see it best at the bottom of the reverse. It probably looks worse in hand, but still not particularly bad.
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It's not a bad coin overall. A TPG environmental damage, but likely one of the less egregious early copper details. |
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Many classic head cents were struck on planchets damaged in route from their source in Europe while stored in barrels that were damp. Also, this coin was struck during the War of 1812 during a trade embargo and blockade. Given what was going on, this 1814 cent looks pretty nice and I am surprised that this TPG did not give it a straight grade. Quote:
On July 12, 1812, the so-called War of 1812 between the United States and the British Empire commenced with the invasion of the Canadian town of Sandwich. The previous month, the war had already been declared, perhaps best described as the result from the good trade relations between the United States and Britain's rival, France. The war that followed, and which would last until the treaty of Ghent was signed in December of 1814, had an immediate effect on the Classic Head Cents in production at the Philadelphia Mint. At the time, the Mint acquired its planchets from the British firm Boulton & Watt. With the British embargo on American trading, the supply came to a halt, and planchets had to be obtained elsewhere. American companies were eager to produce the planchets, but the supply was limited and overall quality low. Most of the cents dated 1814 were struck on whatever leftover planchets could be found, which had already been stored at the Mint for several years. Because of this, cents of 1813 and 1814 tend to be darker and of lesser quality than those of earlier years. Edited by numismatic student
08/07/2018 12:39 am
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Really good informative input Numismatic Student  |
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It is a pretty nice example given the normal for this issue.
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Very nice example with light pitting. It would look good in a 7070.
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Very nice example with light pitting. It would look good in a 7070. Yes, that's what I was thinking. Thanks for the feedback gents! You all answered my question. numismatic student- Outstanding! Thank you. |
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Surprised it wasn't straight graded. It's a nice coin and would look great in a 7070. Edited by SilverDollar2017
08/07/2018 11:21 am
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I think they made the right call with the ED, but still a most attractive example.
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Thanks SilverDollar2017, Coinfrog!
Like Adam_E said, I'm afraid that it could look worse in-hand.
The seller took good pictures of the coin. The pictures could be hiding something.
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Usually coins look better in hand than what they do in the photos. I've seen far worse ED on early copper that ended up in straight grade holders.
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Usually coins look better in hand than what they do in the photos. I've seen far worse ED on early copper that ended up in straight grade holders. Hmmmm, interesting IndianGoldEagle. I might just make this guy an offer, see if he takes it. |
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It's worth a fair offer. That date is a beast to find nice.
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Well, I pulled the trigger. I just got tired of messing around and looking for months. These things are so hard to find in the condition and price you want. The listing didn't say, Make Offer. I just contacted the seller. I offered $195, he came back with a $210 counteroffer. I've been looking at on-line price guides and ebay sales. Unless I'm reading things wrong, the ones I've seen slabbed graded Fine have been $300.00 plus! Now I can't wait to see it in-hand. Whatever happens, it will be good enough to fill the 7070 hole. BTW, thanks for all the feedback and reality check. Edited by USSID18
08/07/2018 5:43 pm
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Greysheet Bid for an F-12 is $400.
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