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rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/06/2006 8:58 pm Please tell me its true!!!!!!!!!! Image: DOUBLEEYE1.jpg 42.02 KB Image: BEAUTIFUlsized1.jpg 49.06 KB Image: FULLFACEDD1.jpg 27.33 KB Image: NOSEDD1.jpg 47.53 KB Image: PENNYFULLDD1.jpg 44.74 KB Image: PENNYFULLDD2.jpg 38.33 KB Image: PENNYREARSLAB1.jpg 28.43 KB Image: SLABFRONT1.jpg 28.19 KB Edited by Mike 01/06/2006 11:16 pm Report this Post to the Staff

rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/07/2006 8:45 pm one more try! Image: CoinCommSSS1.jpg 32.91 KB Image: CoinCommSSS2.jpg 29.98 KB Report this Post to the Staff
rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/07/2006 8:47 pm Don't know what the problem was But the last two worked Report this Post to the Staff
Metalman Pillar of the Community United States 7123 Posts	Posted 01/07/2006 9:06 pm Hi Rujam Please understand that I'm looking at a photo, and my remarks are made based on those photos. Looking at the photos, and the many different affected areas the appearance is suggestive of Mechanical Doubling if this is a fact then the MM is also a result of that cause. although a little less common on proofs than business strike coins it does still happen. This is just one mans opinion, lets see what others think !! Rick Report this Post to the Staff
rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/07/2006 9:35 pm Can this Doubling of whatever kind, increase the value of this coin? Report this Post to the Staff
Metalman Pillar of the Community United States 7123 Posts	Posted 01/07/2006 10:02 pm Mechanical Doubling on a proof coin can add a little value since the occurance is far less, but typically not a lot, on a business strike coin it adds no value. should your coin work out to be a SSS MM then it can add considerably to the value. Rick Report this Post to the Staff
rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/07/2006 11:57 pm A few more pics to ponder. Image: DDST2.jpg 32.76 KB Image: DDTRIS3.jpg 24.83 KB Image: DDS1.jpg 19.72 KB Image: EYETRIORDD1.jpg 44.59 KB Image: FULLLARGE2.jpg 62.58 KB Image: GODD1.jpg 29.93 KB Image: GDD3.jpg 33.21 KB Image: TRI5852.jpg 39.56 KB Image: TRI5551.jpg 30.45 KB Image: TRISPRETTY1.jpg 47.44 KB Image: LINCOLNLARGEST.jpg 67.32 KB Report this Post to the Staff
rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/08/2006 7:32 pm Metalman-- I do thank you for taking the time to look, Let me know any other suggestions you might have. Report this Post to the Staff
Metalman Pillar of the Community United States 7123 Posts	Posted 01/08/2006 8:25 pm They all still look like Mechanical Doubling to me . But again that is just my opinion, perhaps resubmission of these coins to Anacs with the intent of authentification of the doubling and tripling that can be seen, under what appears to be fairly powerful magnification! Rick Report this Post to the Staff
rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/08/2006 10:45 pm http://www.cherrypickersguide.com/i...Doubling.pdf Notice the line at the bottom of the second page....Proof coins often exhibit Strike Doubling due to the excessive force employed. Strike Doubling can be evident on a coin with a true doubled die or true RPM. Report this Post to the Staff
Metalman Pillar of the Community United States 7123 Posts	Posted 01/08/2006 10:58 pm One of the characteristics of true Die doubling is a complete split on the serifs of the lettering and numbers.I dont get that characteristic from the pics, I'm not saying its not there just I dont see it . Mechanical Doubling has as a characteristic a flat shelf like appearnce, which is what I noted on your coins, also evident is that the doubling effects both date and MM, this is also a significant characteristic of Mechanical Doubling. I made sure to let you know that I was looking at pics of the coins, and my opinions were based upon those pics.And nothing more than an opinion, The coins cannot be attributed by photo. if your convinced that there is true die doubling on the coins, then you should crack them out of the slab that does not attribute that doubling and send them to Anacs for there attribution service . Good luck !! I hope it is a reality and there is true doubling on your coins !!! Let us know how it goes ! Rick Edited by Metalman 01/08/2006 11:02 pm Report this Post to the Staff
coppercoins Pillar of the Community United States 7629 Posts	Posted 01/11/2006 2:01 pm Your coin is not a doubled die. It is Machine Doubling that is common to many proof coins of this era. Your magnification indicates to me that you are looking too hard to find your die varieties. My suggestion is to back out to around 12X and look for them at that magnification. Report this Post to the Staff
rujam Valued Member United States 90 Posts	Posted 01/12/2006 9:55 pm Coppercoins-- Thank you for taking the time to look at this coin! It is a Letdown, but I will keep searching my coins though I still have a hard time with the eye. I have a roll of 1974-d and 1975-d in unc condition that have strange things going on! I will be posting pics another time. Also I have a loop, digital camera, microscope and anything else to see everything on a coin. So the only reason I get in on the microscope is to give you guys the pics that can break a Qx-3 and Qx-5 owners heart Report this Post to the Staff
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