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Are Punches On Liberty's Head Market Acceptable (Sld)?

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Here's the coin

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1847-Seate...AOSwQEtbKo4Y

Also, is it common for SLD to have punch marks in that area and just above the head? I've seen a few of them
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 Posted 08/11/2018  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Strange.
I would have thought that coin would be in a DETAILS holder.
What does PCGS know that we don't.

BTW, I would skip that coin and look some more.
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 Posted 08/11/2018  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kopper Ken to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They definitely look like drilled holes from a long time ago...surprised no comment on slab...walk away.

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 Posted 08/11/2018  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not market acceptable. Looks like someone started to drill a hole, but stopped. I wouldn't buy this coin if I were you - I'm sure there are better examples out there that are problem-free.
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 Posted 08/11/2018  10:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What a shame someone ruined that coin. I'd stay away if I were you.
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 Posted 08/11/2018  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure would be details to me . You don't need this coin .
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 Posted 08/11/2018  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think PCGS really dropped the ball on this one. For that $$$, there are lots of others out there.
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For some reason PCGS gives SLD's leniency on grade.
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I don't think they are punch marks, I think they are spots.
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I think spots too. PCGS would not miss punch marks. It looks cleaned and retoned, and the spots make it ugly.

I've created spotting in a matter of days with coin-to-coin pocket contact. Old silver is the worst, but copper does it too.

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Even if they are spots, it still has pretty bad eye appeal.
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Looking again, it could be spots, I don't see any depth. It didn't sell, so ask the seller if he will be reposting it and to either say they're spots/holes or to post an angled close-up to see if they have any depth.

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I've seen worse sld's in straight graded holders and some with green beans. Definitely market acceptable.
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Apparently, but market acceptable doesn't equate to an average market price.
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Update: The seller, who seems like a real nice guy, replied that they are indeed punches and provided this close up image


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Ok now I see depth... you could have it conserved and fill (plug) the holes. It's been done before. But unless you want to experiment at being a metallurgist, I'd still walk away.

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