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1934 D Walking Liberty Half Question - Hello From Sunny Socal

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 Posted 08/12/2018  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you got that coin for anything less than $60 it would be a steal. Not that's what I would pay for it . I know I'm contradicting myself but the coin has more issues than just the one on reverse tail and wing .
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 Posted 08/13/2018  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

And remember that you have to add in any postage, handling, etc. to what ever you paid for that coin to make it the complete cost. As far as if I'd keep it. Yes, nice coin. With a little over 2 million minted, you can't be to choosy.
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 Posted 08/13/2018  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InGodITrust7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just carl, yes the postage and also the hours of electricity we burn sitting at the computer looking at coins.
To my untrained eye I can't say what grade the coin is. However it was billed as uncirculated and even if it is AU I don't believe I over paid, not by much anyway.
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 Posted 08/13/2018  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forum, INGODITRUST7.
If anything about the coin bothers you (and you are here asking about it), return it. There is always another, and a perceived issue will always be there.
As importantly, I would highly recommend starting any new series with PCGS or NGC graded coins before testing the waters for raw material. Gives you a true barometer as you learn to grade for yourself, and you won't end up with a collection full of issues.
Have fun, and enjoy the hunt!
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 Posted 08/13/2018  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InGodITrust7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks hadleydog,
Not sure my perceived issue with this coin is valid. I agree it is a good idea to purchase graded coins even though they come at a premium. If I could come to believe that this coin is at least AU58 I would likely keep it. It seems to have most of its luster about 5 small dents and hairline scratches mostly on the obverse. Also from I have learned so far I believe this a weak strike based on what I see in this PDF by PCGS.
https://www.PCGS.com/resources/guid...llar-web.pdf
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 Posted 08/13/2018  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
INGODWETRUST7, any issue you have with a potential purchase is justified. Any. If you don't love the coin at first glance, you never will.....
Looking at the auction records, I'm seeing AU-58's in PCGS plastic going from $106 to about $150.
Again, you are here because something about this piece is bothering you. It always will.
FWIW, my favourite coin in my small collection is a walker. Love the design, and with patience they can be found quite beautiful!
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 Posted 08/13/2018  10:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InGodITrust7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hadleydog, I love the WLH design too I also like the Peace dollar, the Mercury dime, a few others. I will never have a large collection, but my interest now is to just acquire at least one coin from each of the different classic designs. As far as whether or not I should keep this coin is not a decision I have to rush as the seller is v e r y reasonable about returning coins. I can't afford classic MS69's so there is always going to be some flaw in any coin I buy. At least not in the coins and dates I am looking at right now.
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 Posted 08/13/2018  11:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I hear you about the high end coins. I'm kind of on the same path as you, looking to put together a neat set of coins from different series. Keeping my purchases to a couple of pieces a year, in the highest grade I'm comfortable at with an emphasis on eye appeal.
Take your time, be very selective and enjoy the hunt!
I waited over 15 years for the opportunity to purchase my walker, it was owned by a very good friend and mentor. For me, she was worth the wait!

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 Posted 08/13/2018  11:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add two_tonevf35 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/14/2018  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InGodITrust7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hadleydog- that is a really nice WLH
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 Posted 08/14/2018  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just read through all of this.

You are correct about weak strikes on these - typical for the series.

You said you would like it if its AU. While I am not a paid grader, I would say your pics show MS coin. Compare it on the PCGS photogtade and you will find even their lower end MS examples do not have the details yours show - such as in Liberty's left hand.

Post this in the grading section and I would not be surprised if people says its MS.

Also understand that some people actually like having lamination errors or struck through errors and it can make the coin worth more to them. You may want to post this with a title such as "1934-D Walking Liberty - Lamination, struck through, or?"

That way you could grab the attention of our error collectors.


This one appears, to me, to be a legit error and not PMD - but its one of those that is hard for me to tell by looking at the pics.

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 Posted 08/14/2018  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InGodITrust7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Earle42 Much thanks for your input!
I have been pondering over this coin and have reached the conclusion that if I can be convinced that this coins flaw occurred during the minting process I will keep it.

Earle your post is totally inline with what I thought through today, you helped cement my conclusion. As far as I am concerned a lamination error makes this coin 1 of however many 1934 D's were struck with lamination errors. Now I just need to verify that this flaw occurred during the minting process.

I am without a doubt as far as one can be from an expert numismatist, but for whatever its worth it does appear to be a legit error. Examining it from every angle it is completely flush with the design and so if this is a repair job I can't imagine how the surrounding area would not be damaged in the process of a repair.

My guess is the only way to know for sure is to have the coin graded. Never had a coin graded and also the seller might not take the coin back if I were to go through that process.
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08/14/2018 11:45 pm
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 Posted 08/15/2018  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hadleydog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Finally got a chance to look at this piece on a full size monitor. I certainly agree that it appears to be a small lamination flaw on the reverse.
The obverse has some issues. It's been messed with, particularly in the area to the left of miss liberty where the hairlines intensify to give a 'shiny' appearance.
The gouges to the chest and arm are significant as well.
Grading from a single image or even a group of images is a dangerous game, but from the image provided of the obverse I see an AU details coin.
Ingodwetrust7, is there a reason this date is important to you? If not, a different date such as a 1941 or 1942 could be had in PCGS plastic for about $90 for an MS-65, problem free example. Just a thought.




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 Posted 08/15/2018  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InGodITrust7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hadleydog, My father recently passed and wanted a coin from the year he was born.I like this coins design.

I am more concerned about getting an honest deal than I am about a coin's perfection. However I did pay for coin that was claimed to be uncirculated, not sure that this is accurate. As you stated the obverse does have some issues, for one I can't see how a coin that is claimed to be uncirculated can end up with the type of dents this coin has.
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 Posted 08/15/2018  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add InGodITrust7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After thinking about whether this coin is uncirculated or not, my uneducated guess is that it is uncirculated. I base my assumption on that the reverse has far fewer hairline scratches, scuffs, and dents as the the obverse. I think that a circulated coin in commerce would show similar ware on both the obverse and reverse.

The reverse looks like it belongs to a different coin. Does this make any sense or am I way off base?

Anyway you all are probably board to death by this by now! Thanks to everyone
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