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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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Has there been some development where there have been vastly more open counterfeits being listed on ebay? I was doing a quick search, and literally, every single 'promoted' or suggested inventory was counterfeit? I just gathered that large list of sellers from one single search of 1901 Russia 5 Roubles *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Moderator
 United States
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They come in waves, more some times, less others.
Sometimes I joke When there is a spike in fakes, that they have just graduated a class of counterfeit sellers.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1666 Posts |
They research and adapt. There is downtime to prepare the dies and such before each consecutive production run. At present it looks to me like about a 6 month process from initial release, diagnostics being caught and published, modified run released.
Over-reliance on specific diagnostic criteria is a big problem.
Edited by Numismat
08/28/2018 09:30 am
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Forum Dad
United States
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They research and adapt. I don't know... I'm seeing the same old crap over and over again.. |
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
1949 Posts |
My main concern recently is with the new adjustments to 'promoted listings.' You can now literally promote and offer ebay up to 100% (!) of the listing price in order to promote your listings. Obviously, in regards to legit coins, you cannot be 'promoting' at these exorbitant rates and still making money. I am guessing that is why when I type in something, like the Russian gold, all of the suggested and promoted listings were for very poor counterfeits. That does not bode well, either as a buyer or a seller. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:My main concern recently is with the new adjustments to 'promoted listings.' You can now literally promote and offer ebay up to 100% (!) of the listing price in order to promote your listings. Obviously, in regards to legit coins, you cannot be 'promoting' at these exorbitant rates and still making money. I am guessing that is why when I type in something, like the Russian gold, all of the suggested and promoted listings were for very poor counterfeits. That's exactly what's happening. Just another poor money grab by ebay that is going to result in buyers seeing more scams when it comes to the coins section. And yes I get they're trying to make more money, but what works in all the other crazy high margin sections usually is a disaster for the collectables and coins. |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
694 Posts |
ebay again breaking more laws. Complicit in the fraud that is rife in ebay. The worse thing about it is you will never know who they are as their 100% reputation is protected by ebay and any negative comments are removed as they are so called power scammers err I mean sellers :)
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Forum Dad
United States
24148 Posts |
Quote:eBay again breaking more laws. Complicit in the fraud that is rife in ebay. Show me a counterfeit and I'll have it removed, that's not complicit. |
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New Member
United Kingdom
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New Member
United Kingdom
4 Posts |
It's a 1oz Proof 1993 krugerrand and got 3 bids already.
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Forum Dad
United States
24148 Posts |
If you have proof it's fake I'll get it removed. "Just by the photos it looks fake" isn't good enough.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Carelse-You are correct. That Krugerrand is a counterfeit, but it's been sold. This seller has been reported at least 6 times for selling counterfeit Kruggerands in the past and had them removed. In the future, as bobby says, ebay needs proof that a coin is counterfeit before they will remove it, so please state the reasons why you think it is fake. Edited by JimmyD
09/03/2018 12:48 pm
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New Member
United Kingdom
4 Posts |
Bobby how can I proof it? All I went on are the photos which didn't look like how an authentic Krugerrand should look like.
I remember that you removed seller Gandsa items last year because you thought a SA mint product with a mint mark was counterfeit. Which it wasn't you just haven't seen it before. Where was your proof then?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Due to all the legal red tape sellers pretty much have to admit in their listings that the coins are not genuine, or it has to be a "fantasy" design that has differences from genuine coins. Because of this it's mostly the less dangerous sellers that end up getting acted on while the real scam artists get away. It's a highly flawed system, but better than nothing and about the best we can have all things considered.
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Forum Dad
United States
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Due to all the legal red tape sellers pretty much have to admit in their listings that the coins are not genuine, or it has to be a "fantasy" design that has differences from genuine coins. Oh that's so not true. I get counterfeits removed no matter who sells them and what they admit. A managed seller may take an extra day or two but they still get removed. |
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Posted 08/28/2018 09:28 am
