1858 Flying Eagle (On Foreign Planchet?)

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kyleg02247 Valued Member United States 84 Posts	Posted 09/01/2018 12:12 am Hey Guys, I have a 1858 Flying eagle small date variety. On the Reverse you can make out a 5 and 8 or its two 8's on both sides of the wreath. The penny weighs 4.556 Grams (4.7 is normal.) and it's Diameter is 19.28 mm (19.0 is normal) Please see the attached photos, let me know your thoughts. The penny is a bit worn so I assume that is why it accounts for the weight loss, but unsure why it would be larger. My main focus is trying to figure out why there are two digits in the wreath on Reverse. Report this Post to the Staff

52Raymo Pillar of the Community United States 8517 Posts	Posted 09/01/2018 02:16 am I can't see anything, looks normal to me. Oregon coin geek.....* GO BEAVS ! ! ! * Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 09/01/2018 08:08 am I'm not seeing 8s or anything else odd. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34423 Posts	Posted 09/01/2018 08:17 am @kyleg02247, can you confirm that these two potential digits are just to the left of the C and just to the right of T in CENT? When I blow up one of those areas and enhance the pic, I am seeing a vague outline of something. I wonder if it isn't just a slightly unusual wear pattern rather than an actual struck inscription. As far the coin being 0.28 mm to large in diameter, it could have been squeezed slightly at some point in its hard life. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 09/01/2018 11:21 am Sorry, where exactly on the wreath do you see these digits? Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74504 Posts	Posted 09/01/2018 11:47 am All I see is just heavy damage. Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
kyleg02247 Valued Member United States 84 Posts	Posted 09/08/2018 04:14 am Im sorry I just saw these responses. I will reply soon with better pictures of the entire coin measurements and weight. I am very curious about this coin there is something definitely strange going on with it, and you almost half to be holding it in your hand to digest it. From the pictures alone it does it zero justice. Report this Post to the Staff
kyleg02247 Valued Member United States 84 Posts	Posted 09/08/2018 9:11 pm Yes, the inscriptions are directly to the left and the right of the C and the T in cent perfectly aligned. definitely do not believe it to be a weird type of wear, theres nothing on the wreath of a perfectly struck penny that would resemble these distinct markings which I believe to be two 8's Report this Post to the Staff
Conder101 Bedrock of the Community United States 17884 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 09:33 am There is a "dent" and some shadows, and your mind, trying to make sense out of random data, fits it into an "8". Report this Post to the Staff
kyleg02247 Valued Member United States 84 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 2:30 pm How are they both lined up like that on both sides, I'm not buying a accidental dent. Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 2:45 pm Well Ace, this isn't the first one you've argued about is it? Compare, it is the design of the coin, with a wear pattern! You just don't get it, you are seeing Ghost images! Quote: Pareidolia (/pær#618;#712;do#650;li#601;/ parr-i-DOH-lee-#601;) is a psychological phenomenon in which the mind responds to a stimulus, usually an image or a sound, by perceiving a familiar pattern where none exists. Edited by Crazyb0 09/09/2018 2:48 pm Report this Post to the Staff
SilverDollar2017 Pillar of the Community United States 8715 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 3:04 pm it is not an error. Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 3:26 pm Or it's the all seeing eye of the Illuminatti! Edited by Crazyb0 09/09/2018 3:28 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34423 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 8:17 pm Quote: I'm not buying a accidental dent. @kyle, that is fair push-back, but what coin would you think is the host? There are some 17th and 18th Century European coins that had two digit dates split like that, but that seems pretty far-fetched to me. Maybe you can propose a coin? Thx. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 8:27 pm Quote: here are some 17th and 18th Century European coins that had two digit dates split like that, but that seems pretty far-fetched to me. Quite true Dave, but most over-struck coins only show the original host details in the field levels of the new strike. Not deep within a newly struck coin (incuse) device, the pressure would have moved the coin material to fill out those details... The quy's argument has gone down in flames.... Edited by Crazyb0 09/09/2018 8:33 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 09/09/2018 8:58 pm Keep at it you guys. Report this Post to the Staff
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