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1892 Liberty Nickel

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 Posted 07/11/2008  2:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DarkSun to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
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 Posted 07/11/2008  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malissadawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, I am not very good at this. Just wanted to practice and see how I do compared to the actual experts on here.
I am going with AU50

To the people who grade after me, If I am wrong please explain why so I can learn from this.
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I'd probably go with VF 20 to possibly 30, but this one appears to have been cleaned due to the "whiz" marks on the obverse.
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wow. good thing I dont grade my own coins!
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Hello DarkSun,

I think this is a pretty nice coin. There are some faint parallel hairlines across Liberty's cheek and a fair number of scattered contact marks ("bagmarks"), but the coin doesn't look obviously cleaned to me. There is a lot of luster and there is abundant mint frost peeking out from between Liberty's hair strands and in the crevices of the leaves.

The dark areas in the open fields are the only obvious areas where the original surface has been disturbed from friction. I'd call this a no-problem AU-55. I'd be pleased to have it in my collection!
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Then I guess all the coins in my own collection are nicer than what I think!
LOL!

I thought that the corn grains at the bottom of the wreath on the reverse had to be quite apparent before it was regarded as an AU, and I didn't see that...unless I'm looking in the wrong place. Does the wreath not appear to be worn on the high points? Maybe I just don't know what the heck I am talking about because Joabler always seems to be spot on and I am still learning.
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It would be nice to have photos a little larger, and with correct white balance, but my take on this coin is that it is at least AU-55 and could even go into the low MS grades...it's just too hard to tell from the photos what might be wear due to circulation and what might be bag marks from handling/shipping from the mint. It's a nice coin, well-struck with good balance.
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After reviewing the additional photos, I'm going to opt for AU-55. The "wear" in Liberty's hair is probably primarily due to weak strike, but some of it could be the result of circulation. There are also enough superficial marks on the fields and devices to promote a conclusion of AU. These photos make the surfaces appear a little to flat, not showing as much luster as appeared in the first photos. I don't see any obvious, irrefutable signs of cleaning. A very nice coin.
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lots of detail(AU-53) with lots of contact marks and whizzed from cleaning.nice type coin for any collection--worth perhaps $60-80 US.
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lots of detail(AU-53) with lots of contact marks and whizzed from cleaning.


I've probably seen plenty of whizzed coins without ever being aware of what their problem was. I do see the hairline scratches on Liberty's cheek in the first photo. My understanding of Whizzing (which means, polishing a coin by means of a rotating brush) is that it produces raised ridges of metal at the edges of the letters and devices. I don't see that effect on DarkSun's nickel.

Atlas, can you describe what is it about this coin that suggests it has been whizzed?
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reverse shows fine hairlines from polishing and harsh cleaning (I use the term whiz to describe this condition)...if I'm wrong I stand corrected.
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For me, really hard to tell from just pictures with nickles....but AU50-55 cleaned. Something just doesn't look right with the lustre.
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